@Shpongus You can disagree all you want. You're the one who thinks Bernie has been lying about his own ideology for 40+ years, even though claiming that ideology has cost him dearly.
@Shpongus You cropped an image to pretend I hadn't already addressed it. We WERE having a normal conversation before that. You can't have a normal conversation with some who converses dishonestly though π€·ββοΈ
@Shpongus Love that you had to purposefully crop out all the times I addressed it π I was trying to have a open friendly conversation, but if you have to be this dishonest to try and "win" then fuck off bro.π€£
@Shpongus Again, you cannot advocate for socialist policies in America and be taken seriously. I don't know how to get that through to you. He calls himself a Socialist because that's what he is.
@Shpongus I mean, he does call himself a socialist, that's my whole point. He knows he would have wider acceptance if he said he was a Social Democrat and yet he doesn't. I understand where you are coming from though.
@Shpongus I disagree Social Democrat would be simpler for his audience because in America "socialism" is a bad word. I think if America already had this model, Bernie would advocate for more socialist policies. In his older clips he rides for socialism harder, on the national stage he cant
@Shpongus I take people at their word when they put a name to their political views, especially when it is someone as educated on the manner as Sanders. You can argue that he is effectively a Social Democrat, but that's not what Ethan said. Bernie has every reason to use that phrase, yet