Interested in climate science (atmospheric physics) and have studied the subject for years. Open to an honest discussion on climate science. Not a scientist.
@Lars_Chowanietz@FPerrefort Because the method is the same: Use keywords that select for papers already aligned with the narrative. Classify abstracts by endorsement level. Count “no position” as “agreement.” Exclude mechanistic or neutral papers by design.
Report a high consensus.
1/Internal variability doesn’t add energy to the Earth's system it just redistributes what’s already there. Changes in temp gradients, (advection, latent heat release, or any other internal process) are still just rearrangements of existing internal energy, not a net gain.
3/At the system level, only ASR increases total internal energy. Everything else (water vapor transport, cloud processes, convection, meridional heat flow) is part of the internal machinery that moves energy around without creating it.
@Excogitatoris13@PeterDClack 4/At the system level, only absorbed solar radiation increases total internal energy. Everything else (wv transport, cloud processes, convection, meridional heat flow) is part of the internal machinery that moves energy around without creating it.
@Excogitatoris13@PeterDClack Personally, I don’t use the term ‘greenhouse effect.’ It’s a metaphor. The real mechanism is radiative interaction in gases with active dipole moments, operating within a convective, water‑dominated atmosphere.
@PeterDClack 1-b/ It’s exactly the kind of physical framing that’s required to understand how the climate system actually functions, rather than reducing it to a single variable CO₂ narrative. Our activist friends could learn a lot from this.
@PeterDClack 1-a/ This is a clean articulation of the fundamentals of ocean–atmosphere coupling dynamics which is the core infrastructure that governs how Earth’s internal energy is stored, transported, and redistributed.
@PeterDClack@M17828764Marion 3/ A long‑term cloud regime shift must be initiated by an external driver, but it does not need to be maintained by one. Internal variability cannot start the shift, but a conglomerate of internal mechanisms can sustain and propagate it once triggered.
@PeterDClack@M17828764Marion 2/ Tropical TMLCs are the direct observational cause of increased ocean temperature deltas. Their decline reduces shortwave reflection, increases absorbed solar radiation, and accelerates SST warming. Short‑term clouds don’t regulate ocean heating persistent TMLCs do.