Testimonium Flavianum, Antiquities 18.63–6
In the form that survives in Greek manuscripts it reads, in essence, that about that time there lived Jesus, a wise man (if one should call him a man), a doer of wonderful works and teacher of those who accept the truth gladly; he won over many Jews and many Greeks; he was the Christ; Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men among the Jews, condemned him to the cross; those who had loved him did not forsake him, for he appeared to them alive on the third day as the prophets had foretold; and the tribe of Christians named after him still exists.
A 2025 study by T. C. Schmidt argues that even more of the received text is authentic and that early Christian readers themselves often treated the passage as mundane or slightly skeptical rather than as a confession. The debate continues, but the existence of an original Josephan notice is the dominant position.
Both Islam and Mormonism started the same way - man who is on the outside of his cultures dominant religion - goes alone and has a vision of an angel that gives him a “holy book” from God that contradicts what has already been written - then claims the existing scriptures are wrong.
@DesMoTheBro@AlethiaDefender Totally agree. And I think that debate needs to happen he can’t stay the way it is right now. Our law has grown far to permissive if we’re debating whether a woman should be held liable for killing her three children.
@SylentBell@AxelWyde I agree with you, Bell. The book can be summarized with the first catechism question to love the Lord your God and enjoy him forever. It’s not really depressing at all when you see it strips you down to what really matters similar to what happened to Job
@pensandpoison Charles Spurgeon's active vocabulary is popularly estimated to be around 25,000 words. And yet he still was able to get through to the blue collar worker in England. The upper class considered his usage ‘vulgar’ 🤣
Been reading a book that shows our society in particular tends to move in 80 year cycles, punctuated by 20 year generational shifts. We are at the tail end, so stuff is going to be worse before it gets better - if the trend holds.
Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.