Ted Al-Dubdūb

From Yemen’s Northern Highlands, Ted Al-Dubdūb is an opinionated omnivore who is not afraid to speak the truth.

[Ted Al-Dubdūb @8KIass]

@alh578_ 😂 the fact that I only cursorily read about this stuff, and still Managed to best you points to my far superior intellect

[Ted Al-Dubdūb @8KIass]

@alh578_ And what a coincidence, who else tried to obfuscate that conflict and act as if everything was fine and dandy between Ali and Mu’awiyah…. the Sunnis

[Ted Al-Dubdūb @8KIass]

@alh578_ It does. They were indifferent to Ali and Mu’awiyah’s conflict. If you can say they necessarily are not Sunni I can say they are necessarily not Shia.,what a dumb assertion.

[Ted Al-Dubdūb @8KIass]

@alh578_ If mutazali were completely out side the Sunni fold, why do we find,major Hanafi scholars who openly identified as mutazali?

[Ted Al-Dubdūb @8KIass]

@alh578_ You brought up Al-Zamakhshari. He was literally a Hanafi in fiqh and a Muʿtazili in theology. That alone shows that being Muʿtazili and being part of the Sunni legal tradition were not mutually exclusive identities.

[Ted Al-Dubdūb @8KIass]

@alh578_ If so, this attempt,of, yours to quickly dismiss them as not Sunni doesn’t work. Clearly there is historical reason for them to be seen as Sunni

[Ted Al-Dubdūb @8KIass]

@alh578_ Do,you deny that twelver scholars have always and still view the mutazilis as a Sunni group.

[Ted Al-Dubdūb @8KIass]

@alh578_ @EdgeOfInfinty Obviously you can look at things now after one side has won the internal debate won, and dismiss the others as never having been part of the group to begin with, but I’m far more intelligent than you for that to work

[Ted Al-Dubdūb @8KIass]

@alh578_ @EdgeOfInfinty You are really dumb, you could have been Mutazili in regards to matters like creation of the Qur’an, but then Hanafi In jurisprudence, and broadly “not pro Alid” inpolitical orientation, these are Sunni mutazalites

[Ted Al-Dubdūb @8KIass]

@alh578_ @EdgeOfInfinty Thr screenshot you posted 2 seconds ago literally points to what im saying😂. For centuries Sunnis limited the rightly guided ones to Umar Bakr and Uthman, only recently did they start including Ali to their nasabi past

[Ted Al-Dubdūb @8KIass]

@alh578_ @EdgeOfInfinty Your views on this matter are clearly flimsy. You didn’t have a defined “4 rightly guided caliphs” until a few centuries ago. And now you want to act like it’s an entrenched position 😂 silly Sunni

[Ted Al-Dubdūb @8KIass]

@alh578_ @EdgeOfInfinty It wasn’t. It was decided upon after centuries of infra Sunni back and forth.

[Ted Al-Dubdūb @8KIass]

@alh578_ @EdgeOfInfinty I think you need a refresher on some elementary points. The core split was on the basis of succession. This is evidenced by the fact that there were Sunnis, who for a period of time, believed in the createdness of the Qur’an. Dont act like that was just an always present belief.

[Ted Al-Dubdūb @8KIass]

@alh578_ @EdgeOfInfinty And please don’t misunderstand me , i really dont like sunnism and would hate to be one, it’s just hard to admit that they don’t have a better grip on theology relative to twelvers, as much as id love to argue the opposite

[Ted Al-Dubdūb @8KIass]

@alh578_ @EdgeOfInfinty I think you’re who’s confused. Your confusing ideals with tenets of faith. Sure, of course, Sunnis dont recognize Ali as being greater than the rest, but that doesn’t make you not a Sunni if you do.

[Ted Al-Dubdūb @8KIass]

@alh578_ @EdgeOfInfinty More so a political issue rather than a matter of divine designation.

[Ted Al-Dubdūb @8KIass]

@alh578_ @EdgeOfInfinty Are you dull ? For Twelvers, the Imamate is divinely appointed (theological) and part of the core of religion. Zaydis reject that entire framework, placing them much closer to the Sunni understanding that leadership is…