@BTRBT_ -or exploit the laborer. Exploiting the consumer would require charging them more than the actual value of a product which disincentivizes the consumer from purchasing my product, or I can diminish the wages of my laborer who is dependant on me via enabling them compensation for-
@BTRBT_ If laborers were paid the exact value they created, not the value of the final product, which includes plant value, resource acquisition, etc. they would be able to meaningfully negotiate and compete, however they are not.
@BTRBT_ Add the monopolization of industry, from resource acquisition, to production and finally sales. Corporations and monopolistic entities can exploit the laborer en masse, due to the collective laborer classes constant threat of loosing its own subsistence.
@slanana_manana@_Credible_Hulk SpaceX is owned and controlled by Ellon Musk so whether or not our current finite resources would persist in their avaliblity would be wholly determined by him and whatver entities influence him. This furthers the explorative nature of a billionaire by withholding both finite-
@RockChartrand Your association of communism with all of these things is due to propaganda, not denying that those things happened, they did. Your perceptions however have been influenced by capitalistic propaganda, due to communistic modes of governance being directly opposed to it.
@Anarcgambiteiro@_Credible_Hulk They shouldn’t, a political class separate from the populace is identical to a bourgeoisie class. This is the failure of many a communist society, they failed to abolish class, to implement total and absolute democracy prior to establishing state controlled industry.
@cafreiman Depends on how much more, if the market decides that 50% under the actual value you create is how much you should be compensated for, then most labor positions you will find for the skill set you develop will still be exploiting the value of your labor, be it by half, 4/10’s, etc
@_Credible_Hulk -to skirt laws and social systems. This combined with the fact that as we exist in an environment with finite resources, which capital is a representation of, then the hording of capital via billionaires, investment in profitable ventures that benefit the billionaire and not-
@BTRBT_ Because if you inflate the cost of a product too much, depending on how vital that product is, it will make a customer unable or unwilling to pay for it. So too offload the cost of profit you underpay your employees because they are dependent on continuing to be employed by you.
@BTRBT_ Labor value getting stolen is not when you sell something in exchange of capital, it is the difference between actual value taken to produce a product, vs what you sell it for to make a profit. Labor theft is typically employed via diminishing the wages of your workers.
@TheLastKekker Revolutionary action drive by religious fanaticism towards a religion that is constructed to favor its authors is not an impossibility. Especially if the authors are a people that are subjugated via society at large.