I've been hearing a lot the argument that "The US has helped Israel a lot, Israelis who criticize the US now are ungrateful, Israel owes to the US for the help bla bla bla"
Let's be absolutely clear. Israel owes the US NOTHING, NADA, not a single damn thing.
On the contrary, it is the US who owes a massive debt to Israel. Why you may ask?
To understand the reason we need to go back to 1979. In 1979 there was this event called the Islamic revolution (more like invasion) of Iran. The Islamic revolution was an invasion backed by the British, Americans and French, installing a pathetic mullah in charge who took a civilized prosperous nation and turned it into an ATM for Jihadists.
After 1979, the IRGC went on to finance every terrorist group we now know. Hamas, Hezbollah, Assad, PMF, Houthis etcetera. All those terrorists are, therefore, the fallout of a move made by the US.
As such, if you believe in personal responsibility, then it is the responsibility of the US to destroy all of those terror groups. And what has the US has done? They did practically nothing and let Israel deal with their own mess.
As such, every Israeli that has died since 1979 to all those terrorist groups, the US is partly responsibile. Every dollar Israel has to spend to fight those terrorists, it has to because of an American mistake. Israel has paid a very high price for the mistakes of the US.
And now, the US, ungrateful that they are, not only don't do much to help (excluding epic fury), but they also have the audacity to make demands to Israel to hold back to serve American interests...although the Americans lack the understanding of the ME to actually protect their interests properly and harm themselves...but that's another topic.
This is one example of how the US owes a massive debt to Israel, but there are others. Such as the deal to hand over the Sinai. Israel in exchange gets 3.8 billion a year, which most has to be spent on the US economy anyway. This deal reduced the size of Israel, and to be honest it didn't improve security that much. Weapons went from the Sinai to gaza for years, and Egypt isn't exactly friendly.
Another is the Iraq war. Israel warned the US that taking down Saddam would empower the IRGC. What did the US do? They invaded anyway, took down Saddam, then allowed the region to collapse by mismanagement and empowered the IRGC, making things for Israel worse.
I can go on and on, but I think the pattern starts to emerge. The story of the ME isn't the US intervening on behalf of Israel.
It is a story of the US meddling with affairs they don't understand, screwing up, and then Israel cleaning up the mess, only for the US, due to their pride and their ego to hold Israel back because they truly believe they can fix it themselves this time with "deals and negotiations", only to once again screw up, create an even bigger mess, and for Israel to start fixing it again, rinse and repeat.
So, Israel doesn't owe the US anything. The US owes Israel a big thank you for the help, and a big apology for all the screw ups the US has done. Then the US should understand that they have no idea how the region works, and should delegate the handling to Israel instead, give them, at the very least, a diplomatic blanque check, and only getting involved when truly needed.
Not only would this repay the debt the US owes to Israel, but in the long run, it will benefit the US itself far more than the current approach, since Israel will wipe out most if not all the enemies of the US in the middle east and allow the US to safely invest in the region.
Are there many naive opinions on this platform? Yes. A lot, it's what this platform is famous for.
Is moderate case wrong for criticizing the pro Israel side for being mad at all the restraint the Trump administration is showing right now. Yes, absolutely he is wrong. Especially the way he words it.
Could there be a far bigger picture at play here? Maybe, probably and I hope so. But honestly there are two scenarios:
There isn't one, and Trump is desperate for a deal
There is a plan, which in this case the Trump admin probably expects the critism, and everyone criticizing the admin will be proved wrong...and quite honestly we will be happy about it.
In either case though the idea that the critism comes from entitlement or attitude is just demented, and moderate case should know better. Half the arguments he is using just make no sense.
The list is endless, but one of the things I admire most about Greeks is that no matter where they are in the world, they teach their children to speak Greek. It's beautiful 🇬🇷
The USS Liberty obsession is stupid on every level. Almost everyone in charge of either country back then is dead, we're friends w/ multiple nations that did way worse to us intentionally, the supposed motives don't make sense, & they OBVIOUSLY don't dictate US policy.
Honestly US restraint doesn't make sense even in the bigger picture.
The IRGC isn't just the main sponsor of all terror groups in the ME, it's also the key to winning the economic war with China, since without cheap Iranian oil the Chinese economic machine will become far more expensive to maintain.
Taking out the IRGC and creating a free Iran is literally the key to create a new American era. It collapses the economies and funding of US enemies, while making sure the US controls directly and through alliances most of the world's energy reserves.
The only reason to not take down the IRGC is to serve Russia and China.
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Φυσικά τα εύσημα πρέπει να πάνε στον @chrisochoidis και την @hellenicpolice για την αυστηρότερη (1η φορά στα χρονικά) τήρηση του ΚΟΚ και όχι όπως συνέβαινε για δεκαετίες στη χάση & τη φέξη γιατί κανείς δεν ήθελε πολιτικό κόστος
Ζητούμενο οι αναπροσαρμογές στο μοτίβο αστυνόμευσης
"It's not simply about the double tap, but the way how the double tap being delivered. The kids have moved to another building when the second Tomahawk striked. It's not like a direct double tap, they definitely knew what they're doing."
Do you even know how double tap works? It isn't always instant, in fact many times it is not.
As I said, double tap, whether instant or not, is standard military targets.
Also your claim relies entirely on the IRGC and thus is a lie. They shown no evidence at all it was intentional, and trust me, it they had it, they would have shown.
HORRIFIC VIDEO FROM IRAN:
A couple holding hands, bravely acting as HUMAN SHIELDS for other protesters was SHOT AT directly by the Islamic Regime’s forces with live bullets.
This is a brutal reality.
#IranMassacre
You know you literally just admitted it was collateral right. The school was on a military compound and in the past it was used as a military site.
Also since the US thought it was a military target of course they would double tap it. That's standard procedure for most military targets.
It was an organic uprising. Millions don't hit the streets because a foreign agency said so.
Yes, a mossad account (one that's not even verified btw) posted about it, so what?
Also it's not a damn fair fight when people fight an oppressive regime.
Also the children were murdered by the IRGC by using them as human shields, placing the school next to the military base and next to an AA platform.
So fuck off, you don't care about the kids, you are demented degenerate that only cares to appease the pathetic IRGC
@salkuadratss@TheModerateCase The school children where, again, next to a military compound.
Also the protesters didn't choose to be led by lunatics that by videos we know shot people on the spot for protesting
The Lie of Settler Violence
The IDF just released its 2025 data for Judea and Samaria. To see the truth, read past the headline.
https://t.co/L72r60Eh0t
The headline says settler violence rose 27 percent. Here is what the headline buries.
The comparison is rigged. They measure 2024 against 2025, so 682 cases become 867. Measure against 2023 instead and you get a sharp decline, from 1,045 down to 867. The baseline was chosen to produce the scariest number. That is not data. That is a press release.
The entire "movement" is 300 people. The army's own breakdown:
a) 39 so dangerous the army barred them from the territory.
b) About 30 more it calls "hardcore fanatics."
c) About 230 it calls "extremists."
That is the whole universe. Three hundred people out of roughly half a million Israelis in Judea and Samaria. The "violent settler" is not a movement. This is a fraction of a fraction.
The army already has the power, and it is not the bottleneck. It barred 39 of these men. Why has it not barred more?
The article admits the courts routinely refuse to enforce those orders, and that prosecutions are rare and convictions rarer still. Why are fewer being prosecuted?
Israeli prosecutors are still chasing the bribery charge against Netanyahu after the judges themselves told them it has little chance of holding up. (https://t.co/6ozBqYIr1G). They continue because they favor the left. So why are they not prosecuting these 300 "violent settlers?"
Just to be clear, Ben Gvir does not have authority over the army or the judiciary, so he can't be blamed. Prosecutors are under the purview of Israel's Attorney General Gali Baharav-Miara and can't stand the right.
The 39 or 70 or 300 people who are causing damage should be prosecuted, but the reality is that the evidence does not stand up. So the 27% increase is accusations that are recorded, not actual cases that are proven. If you know someone who has had a toxic relationship with a neighbor or ex-spouse, you know how easily these can be fabricated.
"Violent settlers" works exactly the way "racist cops" worked in America. It is a PR operation with two moving parts.
First, a handful of real offenders is inflated into a category that smears an entire population. Seventy men become half a million.
Second, unrelated cases are folded in to make the pattern look bigger than it is. Remember Michael Brown. "Hands up, don't shoot" ran on every front page. Then the Justice Department (under President Obama) investigated and found it never happened. Brown did not have his hands up. The forensics backed the officer. He was cleared. By then the riots had come and the lie had stuck. The correction never traveled as far as the smear.
That is the machine. Invent a category, feed it with real cases and false ones alike, and let the label do the work.
Israel has a "violent settler" problem about as much as America had a "racist cop" epidemic. It has a few criminals and a great many people eager to use them.
So ask the real question. If attacks have fallen since 2023, why is this all we hear about? Why not in June 2023?
Two reasons. First, there is an election coming, and the point is to sour centrists on the right. Second, for most Israelis the two-state solution died on October 7. The one thing still holding back wider settlement, and even annexation, is the myth of settler violence. Keep Israel frozen at the status quo, and the same deep-pocketed, dark-money operatives can push two states again in a few years. Watch for it the moment Abbas is replaced.
@company_tr99104@salkuadratss@TheModerateCase@RazorFist True.
Although, I don't think they have more intelligence than bots....
Actually bots may have more intelligence than them. I may have just insulted bots by comparing them to pakis and turks 🤭🤭🤭.
H ελληνική (ελληνικότατη) ALTUSLSA έχει παρουσιάσει με την κορυφαία MBDAGroup τον φοβερό συνδυασμό Kerveros-AKERON.
Πραγματικά ανίκητος συνδυασμός, που μπορεί να "περάσει" κάθε άμυνα.
Σκεφτείτε το όχι μόνο εναντίον αρμάτων, αλλά και στη θάλασσα. Να ξέρετε πως η καινοτομία υπάρχει ήδη στην Ελλάδα.
@JacobL1994_ Also I think it's the least healthy. I prefer lamb or beef everyday over pork.
The only time I eat pork is with gyros...and even then sometimes I order it with chicken.
Honestly the muslims kinda give that impression themselves by demanding halal meat everywhere (now they demand access to it, soon they will demand that being the only meat on the market...some already do).
So it's less them being "scared of pigs" and more like us saying to muslims "fuck you and fuck halal". At least that's how I see it.
I don't think they are that successful on the right as they think they are. Sure by what we see on X it seems that way, but many of those are paki and Chinese bots. The failure of Massie at the elections shows that in reality, the campaign has been far less successful. @RazorFist made a good video about it too:
https://t.co/N5xNYIaTVN