@alexisdimas_ No it isnt lol. He's not deliberately attemtping to physically harm or intimidate anyone. It's still bad because someone could have gotten hurt, sure, but the intent makes the difference on whether it's "violence" and whether it's relevant to this conversation.
@ostaplosion Angie Kerber too. I imagine its complicated for German women in tennis who kinda have no choice but to interact with him on some level. Easier to keep their true feelings to themselves i guess. Or maybe they genuinely do like him who knows
@Bestof5forever@choroksaeg@jessicaschiffer Yes but just because we don't know 100% doesn't mean we can't decide for ourselves how likely it is he did what he's accused of and color our opinion of him accordingly. This isn't a criminal court case, where we're diciding whether to lock him up.
@choroksaeg@jessicaschiffer@Bestof5forever I don't "want" to believe it. Why would I want these women to have been victims of abuse? For everyone involved it would be great if the allegations were false. I believe them because there's no compelling reason not to.
@choroksaeg@jessicaschiffer@Bestof5forever The presumption of innocence applies to whether he should be convicted of a crime, not my personal opinion of whether he is a disgusting violent animal who has hurt women.
@choroksaeg@jessicaschiffer@Bestof5forever I dont give a shit what his relationship status was at the time--total non-sequitur. The point is nothing about these posts is inconsistent with being a victim of abuse.
@choroksaeg@jessicaschiffer@Bestof5forever Yes. Victims of abuse often stay with their abusers, cover for them, and love them. Her posting loving messages about him is in no way evidence that he isnt an abuser. You using it as such only reveals how deeply ignorant you are of this issue, and probably of women in general.
@DaveClips@CassandraRules I feel bad for those people who have to nod along to his bullshit and play along with. They surely know he's a delusional fucking moron but can't say it 😂
@beverlys_face@limuzinaxd Not nearly as much of a favorite on this surface, and in these conditions, relative to Mirra Andreeva as Jannik Sinner was relative to his rivals. She was the favorite, but I wouldn't use the word "overwhelming".
@eustace_on7@LordCeepher And what are you talking about with gaslighting and calling people devils? I havent gaslit anybody or called any names other than what I've directed at Zverev. I understand its complex for many reasons and I dont think everyone who disagrees is a bad person.
@eustace_on7@LordCeepher What agenda? I think he is a disgusting violent human being and given that there were no hard consequences against him I think the consequence should be everyone continuing to talk about because thats better than nothing. He's not entitled to everyone moving on.