jean charles leonard

president of sismondi twitter, card-carrying cordelian, dogmatic edwadist

[jean charles leonard @jc_leonard]

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[jean charles leonard @jc_leonard]

@tropicalcamatte @kayrosso1 yeah so much of the automatic subject stuff is just being on the wrong side of this

[jean charles leonard @jc_leonard]

@kayrosso1 @die_rizzen now show us volume 2

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@splitzerr1 bold of you to trust marx as a historian

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not only can you skip the grundrisse, but it's actually very revealing how the entire text is largely reduced down to the "introduction" (which is simply an editorial insertion and doesn't belong with the manuscripts) and the fragment on machines (underwhelming and silly)

[jean charles leonard @jc_leonard]

@zachdcarter the spelling

[jean charles leonard @jc_leonard]

@metachirality currently reading the principles with a minsky fan. much to think about

[jean charles leonard @jc_leonard]

if your understanding of marginalism boils down to treating it as an apologetic project designed to escape the consequences of socialists reading ricardo too closely, you actually don't know anything about the origins of marginalism at all

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@gnomoderno when i find a good history of marginalism i'll let you know i guess. in the meantime i simply prefer my own take which admits that the marginalist revolution was much more complex, happened slowly, and actually had various socialist elements

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@gnomoderno it's at least a semi-serious attempt at making a historical claim but it is largely trivially true at best and affirms a paradigmatic narrative (classical -> neoclassical) i don't really buy. but when your opponent is hollander it's not hard to come away looking good

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@Blake_ramz no one will admit that it's the most interesting volume conceptually because no one ever makes it that far but it's true

[jean charles leonard @jc_leonard]

@rskhm__ wdym i would never recommend skipping capital v2

[jean charles leonard @jc_leonard]

@NewSweezyite all of marx's hegelianisms are actually just sismondianisms but no one's ready to hear that

[jean charles leonard @jc_leonard]

@Linconnudu94050 then we're in the same boat and i'm sorry

[jean charles leonard @jc_leonard]

@Blake_ramz if you're going to marx for that stuff just read v2

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@beverlymantle1 @biff_kev yeah i'm not very interested in that either, although the most sympathetic i can be is to a heinrichian 'science of value', but that is the strongest version of the claim i think falls apart if marx's theoretical object doesn't meaningfully exist

[jean charles leonard @jc_leonard]

@beverlymantle1 @biff_kev

[jean charles leonard @jc_leonard]

@biff_kev read heinrich lib

[jean charles leonard @jc_leonard]

@biff_kev in fact i have said in the past that the only way for marxism to get out of this would be for something like an analytical marxism to be convincing. i am less optimistic than you are im sure, but im aware that it dodges my line of thinking here. the tradeoff is a marx idc about

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@biff_kev well admittedly analytical marxists aren't my target here tbf. i am basically going after heavy weight "value-form theory" (heinrich, postone, open marxism) etc. similarly the cockshotts of the world escape this net, but they are stupid idiot failures for other reasons

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@RosasCatMimi read mute compulsion and fatal conceit at the same time. you will lose track of which one is which!