??? That I read the Bible is the reason I became a Christian. Instead of using my “Reason thinking,” I used my “Faith thinking”. We can use Reason to deduce that Jesus was a human Jewish Preacher who died on the cross using historical standards of assessment. But, it takes “Faith thinking” to believe that the Resurrection actually happens and not just figuratively as Resurrections are outside the natural order of things. Both Reason and Faith are distinct but of the same divine nature that we know as Logos (Reason, Word). Christ is attributed by early Christian writers as embodying and the expression of Logos. This is “Faith thinking - belief in the supernatural works of God. “Reason thinking” is believing that order exists to be able to test hypotheses - God is a God of order.
I’m sorry about that - religion doesn’t excuse idiocy. Homosexuality is not a sin, gay sex is not a sin. Having gay sex outside of a committed relationship or marriage is a sin. That should be a Christian’s attitude while respecting people’s free-willed choices. We can no more blame sexuality for sin, as we don’t blame eating for sin. The promiscuous and the glutton (or whatever) exists in all of us and we would do better to worry about our own planks in our eyes than the speck on others.
@EmagnetTim Free-will - God and Man have it, if they have it, they will be tempted to become a god. Only One can claim, by the Father, that He has resisted temptation.
@McClureShawn Reason puts the things of science in its proper realm of human thinking. Faith puts the things of God in its proper realm of human thinking. When Jesus said, “Render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s, and to God what is God’s,” He wasn’t just talking about money.
It fulfilled God’s moral requirements of humanity. It is interesting that the Gospels talk about the Risen Jesus still having unhealed wounds in his hands and sides. Is that situation permanent? It might be - that real enough? The human sacrifice will always be sacrificing as long as these wounds do not heal.
There are two ways of thinking that makes sense in the pursuit of knowledge - Reason and Faith. Applying one way to all information serves no one. One needs to deal with physical matters with Reason. One needs to deal with spiritual matters (or lack thereof) by Faith. Reason needs a priori trust that it works, An a priori Faith needs a reasonable grounds for belief and, for myself, it is the historical documentation of Jesus’s life in the Gospels.
Yes, I agree, is one thing to say that a jail or mental asylum exists, but quite another to arrogantly declare that this person and that person will go to hell. I’m a firm believer in free will and God, and to treat others that they don’t have that right of belief or lack thereof pisses me off.
Most historians agree that Jesus was a real Jewish preacher that really died on the cross and somehow and somewhen an event really occurred that convinced Monotheistic Jews that Jesus was the really risen Messiah. This doctrine started to form in the early Christian church 1-5 years after His death. Fictional? No, that Jesus is not.
There are two ways of thinking, both come from the same source, the Greeks and New Testament writers such as John called Logos as to be Reason or Word because the Greeks valued Logic and Rhetoric, John saw the Risen Christ as the Logos through the Word (Faith) that through Him all creation flowed out into being. Reason and Faith are two sides of the same coin known as Logos. Reason is utilizing the physical sensory network that people use to gain information about the world, when we say “makes sense” we are accepting that information that was reasoned out as true, that is one type of thinking. Faith is belief in a divine being because an existing God would want us to know Him. Alvin Plantinga has argued that faith in God is rational because we can sense Him and understand Him - even imperfectly - by a sense of the divine. The reason for arguing for the rationality of belief is that God has to somehow communicate to us and Plantinga presents a model as how it may happen. That’s the second type of thinking. Reason and Faith are distinctive in that Reason expects physical order and Faith expects supernatural revelation or intervention of which disrupts the natural order of things. Both type of thinkings are necessary for a balanced life in Christ.
@SawtelleAn5682 Religions are designed to create avenues of belief. The credibility of religions break down when people are not free to believe. Americans are one of the most religious people today because of that freedom or not to worship.
Why are you aware of the idea of God? In order to understand that atheism offers nothing, one has to acknowledge the existence of at least the idea of something. If atheism was really true, we would have no awareness of any differences or distinctions between nothing and something. But we do, there is no getting around that fact. Atheism self defeats itself by its own definition, a-theism, a lack of belief in gods. Atheism still needs the concept of gods or God to even function as a definition. Skepticism is a more honest definition.w
I’ll say this for skeptics (I am one) of the young-earthers, but they explain well why we didn’t get cancer back then. A vapor barrier in the upper atmosphere existed before the flood. Now why didn’t this so-called vapor barrier seep down to the earth? The pressure of the vapor barrier upon the earth made air more dense under it. Well, why doesn’t it freeze up there, it is cold but the sun warms up the vapor barrier (UV absorption) and keeps it a clear gas. If most planets with an atmosphere have think gases around it, how is (was) earth any different? Compelling, but the dust of Adam turning into a human being skips over the extraordinarily evolutionary process.
@Ernest1588761@UgoCannon@_Ochiedike Then how do we assign value judgement to morals? It can’t be as a response to pain. Tripping, falling, and injuring oneself over someone’s foot by accident confers no moral blame, an attempt to deliberately trip to cause injury but fails warrants an assignment of blame anyway.