Ryan Groves

Musician and Data Scientist. Founder of Infinite Album & Melodrive -Creator of Ditty - on a mission to enable musical creativity through technology.

[Ryan Groves @ryangrovesmusic]

We've fully launched 🥳

Had the amazing opportunity to work with @ThomasBarrandon to launch our first Artist Pack - with music infinitely generated in his style.

[Infinite Album @InfiniteAlbumIO]

IT'S FINALLY HERE! Unlimited streams of copyright-safe AND game-reactive music for your livestreams!

Infinite Album uses fully licensed generative AI music to create infinitely playable streams of music.

#twitch #twitchstreamer #twitchaffiliate #twitchpartner #TwitchconVegas

[Ryan Groves @ryangrovesmusic]

Trying to bring a bit of transparency to AI in the song making process.

I spearheaded this project to open-source our submissions at the AI Song Contest, and our dataset paper just got through ISMIR’s peer review 💪

[AI Song Contest @aisongcontest]

The AI Song Contest is proud to announce that our dataset paper has been accepted to @ISMIRConf 2024!

We are making our 2023 submissions public, to encourage #transparency in the #AI & human co-creation process.

We worked with @UW. Attached is a small sample of our analysis!

[Ryan Groves @ryangrovesmusic]

@EzraSandzer Ironically if you use that as a prompt both services will spit out Sussudio by Phil Collin’s

[Ryan Groves @ryangrovesmusic]

Suno is getting sued. I feel like music has one of the more restrictive legal frameworks, and they’ve basically been through this before with Napster.

It’ll be very interesting to see how this plays out - could be a power play to position a good deal w/suno.

[Luiza Jarovsky, PhD @LuizaJarovsky]

🚨BREAKING: @UMG, @capitolrecords, @sonymusic, @warnermusic, @AtlanticRecords, @Rhino_Records & other major record labels sue AI music program Suno AI for copyright infringement. Important quotes:

"Given that the foundation of its business has been to exploit copyrighted sound recordings without permission, Suno has been deliberately evasive about what exactly it has copied. This is unsurprising. After all, to answer that question honestly would be to admit willful copyright infringement on an almost unimaginable scale. Suno’s executives instead speak publicly in exceedingly general terms. For example, one of Suno’s co-founders posted online that Suno’s service trains on a “mix of proprietary and public data,” while another co-founder stated that Suno’s training practices are “fairly in line with what other people are doing.” Piercing the veil of secrecy, an early investor admitted that “if [Suno] had deals with labels when this company got started, I probably wouldn’t have invested in it. I think that they needed to make this product without the constraints." (page 3)

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"Plaintiffs could have proceeded with this action based solely on eliciting that reasonable inference of copying. Nevertheless, Plaintiffs’ claims are based on much more. In particular, Plaintiffs tested Suno’s product and generated outputs using a series of prompts that pinpoint a particular sound recording by referencing specific subject matter, genre, artist, instruments, vocal style, and the like. Suno’s service repeatedly generated outputs that closely matched the targeted copyrighted sound recording, which means that Suno copied those copyrighted sound recordings to include in its training data. In addition, the public has observed (and Plaintiffs have confirmed) that even less targeted prompts can cause Suno’s product to generate outputs that resemble specific recording artists and specific copyrighted recordings. Such outputs are clear evidence that Suno trained its model on Plaintiffs’ copyrighted sound recordings." (page 5)

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"At its core, this case is about ensuring that copyright continues to incentivize human invention and imagination, as it has for centuries. Achieving this end does not require stunting technological innovation, but it does require that Suno adhere to copyright law and respect the creators whose works allow it to function in the first place. Plaintiffs bring this action seeking an injunction and damages commensurate with the scope of Suno’s massive and ongoing infringement. (page 6)

➡️Read the full lawsuit below.

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[Rituparna Chatterjee @MasalaBai]

I don't think people elsewhere fully grasp what's happening in NCR and just how hot it is. At 7am, the tap water is boiling hot. The sun hurts the eye. There's no night time anymore. For 24 hours the temperature feels above 40C. Which means during night the water is as hot

[Jay Van Bavel, PhD @jayvanbavel]

Questions at academic conferences:

[Sasha Yanshin @sashayanshin]

First Adobe changed their Terms to give themselves a permanent license to any content you produce using their software.

Then they pretended it was a misunderstanding.

Then Adobe gaslit people who pointed out that they are full of BS.

Then they put out damage limitation statements that mean nothing.

I have cancelled Adobe and so should you if you are a creator who has a backbone.

Here is what I have done:

1. Premiere Pro -> Davinci Resolve

This is an upgrade. The software is less clunky and actually works better.

Integration with hardware is better.

No licences. No monthly payments.

I bought the Speed Editor Keyboard that comes with a Resolve license - absolute bargain of a deal.

2. Photoshop -> Affinity Photo

This is also an upgrade. After an hour of getting used to it, Affinity software actually works better.

Image editing and my YouTube workflow are better.

3. Illustrator -> Affinity Designer

Same as above - actually very good software.

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In the last few years Adobe’s competitors have caught up with and overtaken Adobe.

I was blind to how good the alternatives have become, using Adobe stuff because I was a creature of habit.

Would very strongly recommend trying the alternatives out.

You might surprise yourself… And save a boatload of cash.

[Robbie Trevino @RobbieSTrevino]

An important read regarding Cara and the reality of large scale operation cost. Angelo makes some great points here and has a lot of experience in this area. Jingna and her team are already facing massive operational costs and Cara is still growing.

[Ryan Groves @ryangrovesmusic]

This needs to be shared as far and wide as possible so that no one ever has to code formulas in latex ever again 😅

[Oriol (Uri) Nieto @urinieto]

Microsoft Copilot just blew my mind. I wanted to see if it could generate LaTeX code from an image, and not only did it do a fantastic job (almost 100% correct), but it added some context about the formula itself! 🤯 I'm not coding LaTeX formulas anymore, this is a game changer

[Ed Newton-Rex @ednewtonrex]

More proof that generative AI competes with the data it's trained on.

1. AI image generators train on stock images
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2. Klarna CEO says "we’ve removed the need for stock imagery from image banks like @gettyimages", instead using AI image generators.

Very relevant to the fourth fair use factor (potential market for / value of the original).

[Ryan Groves @ryangrovesmusic]

@EzraSandzer 😆 RyGro

[Ryan Groves @ryangrovesmusic]

@EzraSandzer @ednewtonrex This scenario has happened in the past with impersonators. Bette Midler was asked to sing for a commercial and declined. Then they hired an impersonator to sing like her on the commercial. She sued and won. Violates the right of publicity.

[Ryan Groves @ryangrovesmusic]

@ednewtonrex This reminds me of the fashion industry when they started using their logos as patterns on handbags because it was the only thing that was protectable through copyright. How do we “Gucci” our own art?

[Ryan Groves @ryangrovesmusic]

@keunwoochoi Yeah, I like that they reference openAI, who historically botched the question on training data 😅

[Ed Newton-Rex @ednewtonrex]

@DavidDingAI Being useful for professional creators necessarily involves not exploiting their work. Can you share whether Udio has licensed the music it trains on?

[Ed Newton-Rex @ednewtonrex]

Update on AI crawlers & @squarespace, having chatted with them:

- You are opted-in to allowing AI crawlers by default
- When you opt out, they only opt you out of 5 crawlers. You're still opted into crawlers from Amazon, ByteDance (TikTok), Cohere, Facebook, Perplexity etc.
- There is no way of manually updating your robots.txt file to block more crawlers

The bottom line: none of the estimated ~3 million live Squarespace websites can meaningfully opt out of being scraped for training data by AI companies.

[Austen Allred @Austen]

This is one of the craziest videos I’ve ever seen.

Harry Mack is incredible.