Looks like we're going to have some new folks around here. Here's what you can expect:
1) general disapproval of modernity
2) endearing vignettes of bickering w/ my 17yo son about Napoleon
3) love of Appalachia
4) deeply protective of working class
5) probably too ecumenical
The implications of this are boggling. Depending on what’s in the library, it could rewrite the entire history of Classical (and therefore European) literature.
I'm at the place in my career & research where I'm seriously considering spending $150 for a used copy of a translation of Galileo's poem "Against the Donning of the Gown" that he wrote as a young professor after being repeatedly fined for not wearing required regalia
@ChristianityOn I think the key word here is the plural “girls” insofar as it signals a normed class. It’s not that I don’t have individual friendships w/ *other* women & find affinity with them as individuals but when I try to connect in groups shaped by gendered norms, it doesn’t work.
@ChristianityOn IME, “NLOG” means I tried to socialize with my gender along gendered norms & it did not go well so I wasn’t granted belonging in the group so I prefer to socialize with groups where performing female gender norms is not the basis for belonging.
@TomeBrown39@brandon_d_smith I’m not sure if that’s exactly what you mean but I’m thinking about how much of this is based not on abstraction but our embodied life with each other in community
@TomeBrown39@brandon_d_smith Right, right, right. There’s a difference btwn ideas/doctrines & living them out ethically. We have to do both. Too many folks, one, think having the “right” idea or interpretation frees you from the responsibility to engage in ethical way with others.
@TomeBrown39@brandon_d_smith Yes precedent within the tradition is an important question of ethics & doing right by neighbor insofar as that’s what is the stated & agreed upon teaching.
@TomeBrown39@brandon_d_smith I think we learn from historic process & previous ways of entering into mission of Christ—how we got it wrong, what was good & right, & then return to our own moment as the living Body bound together thru Spirit & humbly do our best & trust God’s mercy b/c it will be imperfect.
@TomeBrown39@brandon_d_smith That doesn’t mean relativizing truth so much as confessing limitations as human beings to know & practice it. There’s no moment in church history that we can point to and say, “there! That’s when the church had everything together! That’s where we need to be.”
@TomeBrown39@brandon_d_smith My concern is how often the current debates fail these basic moral tests & are reduced to proof texting. There may be an ethical way to argue for restricting preaching to male-exclusive eldership but the current amendment isn’t it.
@TomeBrown39@brandon_d_smith For me, evaluating the health of a congregation/denomination is more about whether privileges & accountability align, whether every member has ability to exercise their Spirit-given gifts in some fashion, & whether loving communion thru mutuality is the governing dynamic.
@TomeBrown39@brandon_d_smith My concern is that the logic of the amendment as it is written roots preaching in maleness not pastoral office. Which is a very different argument than Brandon is making I think
@TomeBrown39@brandon_d_smith The shared question is “What work can only a pastor do that no one else in the congregation can do?”
If you decide that preaching is a function of office of pastor as Brandon is arguing (& the amendment claims to), then no one but pastors should preach regardless of gender.