@AwakenedMuslim@RealShahriqKhan "corrected message"
Islam to be consistent
has to short tell
GENESIS
Fall of Man
Promised Redeemer
Humanity need for Salvation
EXODUS
Passover, death of firstborn
JESUS TEACHINGS
It has no single record of Jesus parables
CRUCIFIXION
The very fulfilment of the Promised Savior
@HiddenAceMind@AdageorgeA As I mentioned, it is irrational, pointless: You quote Christian texts as evidence while denying they are authoritative
You just try to impose since you're Islamic Schooled
Then I'll explain why those texts are fully consistent with Christian Theology as am Christian Schooled
@HiddenAceMind@AdageorgeA My question at start:
Do you accept verses you quoted as genuine Divine Revelation?
Your took it confident and said, "I'll be happy to start the conversation ❤️. Now explain to us."
When clarified if it is the Gospel, you avoid direct answer
That's intellectual dishonesty
Bye
@Durianhack@enesovat22 You got definition wrong
It's not personal
Only Adam and Eve have true Freedom
They fell, chose autonomy from Divine Providence
They represent mankind
If even they fell, no one from us can do better
We're sons of disobedience, of wounded or broken will in need of Salvation
@Islam435 Holiness: is absolute sinlessness
It sends sins to hell?
It sends people to hell
Man in his pride (a sin, autonomy from Divine Providence) insist he can fix what he broke
Divine Providence: Provides
Promised Redeemer
Islam preaches that man can tip the scale of judgement
@Islam435 Oneness is a major attribute emphasized in Islam.
What lacking in Islamic Theology is the fuller exploration
Holiness: perfectly pure
Divine Sovereignty: absolute authority over all things
Love, Justice, Mercy
It's not who got a better attribute, it's Islam forsake the Torah
@Its_97c@GodLogic_GL@ministerNSN@CanyonMimbs Holiness: is sinlessness
It sends sins to hell?
It sends people to hell.
Man in his pride (a sin, of autonomy from Divine Providence) insist he can fix what he broke
Divine Providence: Provides
Promised Redeemer
Islam preaches that man can tip the scale of judgement
@Its_97c@GodLogic_GL@ministerNSN@CanyonMimbs Oneness is a major attribute emphasized in Islam.
What lacking in Islamic Theology is the fuller exploration
Holiness: perfectly pure
Divine Sovereignty: absolute authority over all things
Love, Justice, Mercy
It's not who got a better attribute, it's Islam forsake the Torah
@HiddenAceMind@AdageorgeA "Do I really need to accept it before you explain?"
Yes. You're quoting verses from the Book of John yet don't accept in it's authority
Should I say you were being dishonest when you claim to believe Injil (Gospel)?
How can you you believe a book when the book was lost?
@HiddenAceMind@AdageorgeA You're the one who showed off your library of books
Effectively, you're saying NO: to the VERSE nor the BOOK
As mentioned earlier, the question is irrational
You're appealing to evidence from a source you reject while denying the authority of the very text you're using.
@HiddenAceMind@AdageorgeA From Wikipedia:
"Muslim generally does not identify the Christian’s New Testament as the divinely revealed Injil mentioned in the Qurʾan"
That's why, just to be clear: do you accept the Book of John (the Christian Gospel) as genuine Divine Revelation?
Just a yes or no.
@HiddenAceMind@AdageorgeA That's not mainstream Islam so need to clarify
Injeel you mentioned is the Christian Gospel? (e.g. the Book of John)
Muslim are saying original Injil was lost?
So to be clear: do you accept the Book of John (the Christian Gospel) as genuine Divine Revelation?
Just a Yes or No
@YasinJalloh92@Samuelkonadu34@AdageorgeA "nowhere in the entire Bible"
“The Son of Man came… to give His life as a ransom for many."
Mark 10:45; Matthew 20:28
“This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.”
Matthew 26:28
@HiddenAceMind@AdageorgeA Those are Christian scriptures.
Question: Do you accept the verses you quoted as genuine Divine Revelation?
If not, then the question is irrational.
If yes, then we can continue and discuss what the text actually teaches.
@WonGodOnly@AdageorgeA Stick to the argument presented.
Her point was that Jesus speaks with authority and certainty about eternal life.
If you think her conclusion is wrong, address that comparison.
Claiming she was "never a Muslim" does not answer the argument.
@Jamesputty8@Kristen419364@AdiGamesREAL@DeenRatio When you say, as quoted "if the divine nature did not suffer, die, or lose anything"
are you assuming that for a sacrifice to be “divine,” the divine nature itself must suffer, die or lose anything?
Christian Theology doesn’t make that assumption.
@Jamesputty8@Kristen419364@AdiGamesREAL@DeenRatio Holiness is absolute moral purity, perfect in righteousness, wholly set apart from all that is sinful or impure.
Prophet Isaiah, in his vision of the Holy One, even a righteous man is undone:
“Woe is me! For I am lost; for I am a man of unclean lips”
Isaiah 6:5