@Solaris0000@vehemourn @ALonelyGoldfish @ackarori How exactly is making yourself actively feel worse a good coping mechanism?
Just cos it's done to cope doesnt mean it's good for you. And most of us taking a stance here are people who went through low self-esteem.
@AndrosTheShadow @bungmunch @goreyhime @break_gaol @stuartduke6 @tritium_h3 I don't know what it is with people on social media and getting into extremes but getting called insane doesn't feel very good lol
@break_gaol@bungmunch @AndrosTheShadow @stuartduke6 @tritium_h3 The problem is manipulation, which also happens in scientific fields. It has got nothing to do with spiritual beliefs which can and have inspired people to act for the better.
I don't like this attitude at all. As if spirituality and critical minds can't coexist.
@goreyhime @bungmunch @AndrosTheShadow @break_gaol @stuartduke6 @tritium_h3 My suspicion was then proven by his following replies.
I'm not saying medium scammers aren't hurtful. I'm arguing that the beliefs they use to manipulate others aren't always inherently wrong and that targeting them rather than the manipulators is misguided.
@goreyhime @bungmunch @AndrosTheShadow @break_gaol @stuartduke6 @tritium_h3 Oh that's a misunderstanding then. I'm talking about my first tweet in the thread.
@AndrosTheShadow @bungmunch @AllysonHRJK @break_gaol @stuartduke6 @tritium_h3 I really wouldn't call this person any of these things tbh, I don't think they're completely wrong, they're just going about it the wrong way
@bungmunch @AndrosTheShadow @break_gaol @stuartduke6 @tritium_h3 I'm Muslim. I also believe in science as my religion strongly condemns ignorance.
The concept of spirituality isn't your enemy. Manipulators, groomers, liars, are.
@bungmunch @AndrosTheShadow @break_gaol @stuartduke6 @tritium_h3 Many scientists are also religious. Balance exists, and maybe you'd realize this if you got your nose out of r/atheism-like stuff and talked to people involved.
@goreyhime @bungmunch @AndrosTheShadow @break_gaol @stuartduke6 @tritium_h3 That has nothing to do with the concept of spiritual belief. Scammers exist in literally every field.
@bungmunch @AllysonHRJK @AndrosTheShadow @break_gaol @stuartduke6 @tritium_h3 Like, I'm not saying manipulation doesn't happen. I'm saying that the genuine beliefs should be respected.
@bungmunch @AllysonHRJK @AndrosTheShadow @break_gaol @stuartduke6 @tritium_h3 ... And all this has also happened with pseudo-science. It's not exclusive to spiritual beliefs.
I'm not even arguing that cults and such don't exist but you sure as hell aren't helping anybody by looking down on spirituality. I'm saying this as a mildly religious person.
@bungmunch @AndrosTheShadow @break_gaol @stuartduke6 @tritium_h3 and to be clear. I don't belief in that stuff either, but like. Live and let live it's not hurting anybody
@bungmunch @AndrosTheShadow @break_gaol @stuartduke6 @tritium_h3 I wonder what possesses you people to have this attitude towards spiritual belief, as if it having no scientific basis is supposed to be bad or something.