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[محمد فهيم @_MdFaheem]

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[محمد فهيم @_MdFaheem]

John said in the first chapter of Gospel of John that he is not Elijah. Biblical dilemma 🤣

Mirza is using bible to prove his point but doesn’t know the contradictions 🤣

[محمد فهيم @_MdFaheem]

Qadiyani keeps asking if matyrs are alive or not as if it’s going to help him with Mirza’s statement.

Martyrs are alive therefore Musa (AS) and Eesa (AS) are alive in the heavens. But Mirza clearly says that you won’t find such verses regarding Eesa(AS).

[Raamiz Sheikh @Raamiz13]

@_MdFaheem @SultanAChoudhr1 I find it funny you think we dont read his(as) books. Ahmadis are not like you. You (not personally) listen to molvis and dont even try and read Quran or other books yourselves. Projecting wont work here.

Are martyrs alive or not? You have not answered a single question.

[محمد فهيم @_MdFaheem]

Mirza said Elijah(AS) and Idrees (AS) are alive with their PHYSICAL bodies in heaven.

He also confused يوحنا (Yahya) with Elijah because Mirza was quoting from Gospel Of Matthew where John the Baptist is called Elijah. 🤣

[محمد فهيم @_MdFaheem]

@Raamiz13 @SultanAChoudhr1 Yeah it’s a waste of time when you keep distorting the words of your prophet and gaslighting by saying I don’t believe in the Quran. Since you have changed the topic, I can prove that Isr’ Wal Mi’raj was a physical journey.

Do you want that or would you like the final nail?

[محمد فهيم @_MdFaheem]

@Raamiz13 @SultanAChoudhr1 lol it’s not even a debate. I’m asking you to only believe in the writings of your prophet. Mirza is clearly saying that Musa (AS) is alive IN THE HEAVEN. HE MET THE PROPHET. HE IS NOT AMONGST THE DEAD.

Meaning it was a physical meeting.

Fairy tale?

[محمد فهيم @_MdFaheem]

@Raamiz13 @SultanAChoudhr1 There is no mention of martyr there. If it was, then both of them are alive as martyrs. But he’s clearly comparing Musa and Eesa by saying that you won’t find such verses regarding Eesa(AS) RATHER you’ll only find death.

You’re distorting your prophet’s writings.

[محمد فهيم @_MdFaheem]

@Raamiz13 @SultanAChoudhr1 You’re changing the topic now. The quotes are all there black and white. You’re just avoiding the logical conclusion deduced from Mirza’s writing.

Worst part is that your murabbis wasted 4 hours with Adnan Rashid when Mirza himself said he accepts bodily ascension in 1905.

[محمد فهيم @_MdFaheem]

@Raamiz13 @SultanAChoudhr1 I think you don’t understand. Sultan or your Jemaat murabbis won’t tell you these. They’re paid to only show you what keeps you in their cult. They quote from all scholars except Mirza. We don’t need to accept those scholars but you have to accept Mirza’s statements.

[محمد فهيم @_MdFaheem]

@Raamiz13 @SultanAChoudhr1 No matter how many times you read it, it’s obvious that he’s saying Musa(AS) is alive based on Quran and you’ll find statements of death for Eesa(AS). Here’s a more explicit statement of by Mirza from his Malfuzat Vol.7 page 275. Do you believe Eesa(AS) went up with body?

[محمد فهيم @_MdFaheem]

@Raamiz13 @SultanAChoudhr1 You’re go back on what you agreed originally. Do you believe in this statement of Mirza? Musa(AS) is alive in the heavens and Eesa (AS) is dead.

[محمد فهيم @_MdFaheem]

@Raamiz13 @SultanAChoudhr1 Bro kept calling me dumb and now plays dumb. Don’t change the topic. Do you believe in Mirza’s statement that Musa (AS) is alive in the heaven based on Quran and Eesa(AS) is dead? He tells you clearly in RH vol 7 page 221.

[محمد فهيم @_MdFaheem]

@AhmadMarjaan Unce ji… are you going to come back?

[محمد فهيم @_MdFaheem]

@Raamiz13 @SultanAChoudhr1 Reflect bro! Mirza is asking you to reflect!
Translation of RZ Vol 7 page 221

[محمد فهيم @_MdFaheem]

@Raamiz13 @SultanAChoudhr1 I knew you would make things up. So here’s the next reference. He is comparing Eesa(AS) to Musa (AS) in terms of being ALIVE. He’s claiming that Eesa(AS) is dead. He even tells you how can a living person meet a dead person. Musa Alive but Eesa dead??!? 🤣

[محمد فهيم @_MdFaheem]

@Raamiz13 @SultanAChoudhr1 lol Mirza said clearly that Musa (AS) is ALIVE in the heaven. This has to be fairy tale right? He’s before Eesa(AS). That’s 3000 years. But please enlighten us with your mumbo jumbo.

[محمد فهيم @_MdFaheem]

@Raamiz13 @SultanAChoudhr1 Ruhani Khazain vol 8 page 68-69.
Mirza is giving evidence from the Quran.

Here are the possible options for you:
1. Claim that it’s a spiritual life although the text doesn’t say that.
2. Accept that it’s obligatory to have that belief that Musa(AS) is alive in the heavens.

[محمد فهيم @_MdFaheem]

@Raamiz13 @SultanAChoudhr1 Let me give you some snacks first before the main course.

Mirza: It is obligation on every Muslim to believe that Musa (AS) is alive in the heaven and that he did not pass away.

[محمد فهيم @_MdFaheem]

@Raamiz13 @SultanAChoudhr1 Boy, relax don’t change the topic. Will you accept if I bring the statement of Mirza? He’s your prophet. Answer this first. If I bring the prophet Muhammad’s statement, you’d definitely accept. How abt Mirza? Yes or no?

[محمد فهيم @_MdFaheem]

@Raamiz13 @SultanAChoudhr1 Not your prophet?!! lol.
My prophet???! lol.

You and I believe in all ahadith of prophet Muhammad so we can’t use it against each other z

But only you believe in Mirza because he’s your prophet. Therefore, you have to accept all his statements.

Ready?