"Political parties may now & then answer popular ends, they are likely in the course of time & things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious & unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people & to usurp for themselves the reins of government..."
@JohnDick990944@tedhitchCOCK0@SleeperVikings@dpshow If he plays well enough to get a big contract the Vikings will do what they need to sign him. That he negotiated the no franchise tag into his contract & the Vikings obliged tells you...
1. He expects to play & play well
2. The Vikings really wanted him & were desperate
@JohnDick990944@tedhitchCOCK0@SleeperVikings@dpshow I have 2 counters
1. It's the Arizona Cardinals...a mess of an organization. Even in that mess he had some pretty damn good years.
2. JJ McCarthy played at a Christian Ponder rookie year / JaMarcus Russell level. Could he get better? Sure. Is it more likely he sucks? Yes.
@JohnDick990944@tedhitchCOCK0@SleeperVikings@dpshow I don't know if I believe he'd be Kirk level mediocre, but I understand wanting to see if JJ is better. I think you're just not thinking about how much these players and coaches want to win right now. Who gives you the best opportunity to do that... Kyler or JJ? It's Kyler.
@JohnDick990944@tedhitchCOCK0@SleeperVikings@dpshow You're misunderstanding. He chose here because he gets to play here. It's not that the Vikings are a charity and playing him so he gets paid. It's an agreement from both parties because right now JJ sucks and KOC needs to win a playoff game or his seat gets hot.
@JohnDick990944@tedhitchCOCK0@SleeperVikings@dpshow In 2024 he ranked 7th in big time throw rate. He's still 5th all time in completion percentage. He's still one of the best running threat QBs in the game. Now he's not perfect & you can poke holes in some of this stuff but we're talking about competing against JJ McCarthy here
@JohnDick990944@tedhitchCOCK0@SleeperVikings@dpshow Completely disagree. It makes sense for him to play so he gets paid again. They're promising him the job because they're qb situation is terrible & KOC needs to win. Whatever faults Murray has he's still at least a slightly above average QB when you sum up his game / statistics.
@JohnDick990944@tedhitchCOCK0@SleeperVikings@dpshow He could have played with the jets, browns & even the saints if he needed too. He chose the Vikings and he chose relatively quickly. I know you love JJ & that's fine. I'm not mocking you for that. But let's be reasonable. This is kyler's job that he only loses if he's terrible
@JohnDick990944@tedhitchCOCK0@SleeperVikings@dpshow Do you truly believe Kyler Murray would have signed here without a handshake deal that he's the quarterback?
Think about it. Murray is in a contract year. He needs to play and play well to prove that he deserves another big contract. He could have played in Pittsburgh (cont)
@VGjallarho39@iamtbarnesmn@TPPSkol He had other options to play this year & he chose the Vikings. He wouldn't if it was a coin flip that he would play. The org can say whatever, but barring god awful play, injury, or McCarthy looking like mahomes, Murray is the starter week 1 & only injury is remotely likely.
@VGjallarho39@iamtbarnesmn@TPPSkol Unless Murray looks god-awful in practice they are obligated to start him due to what I'm sure we're handshake guarantees when he signed here. Why would he come here on a contract year if he's not going to play? He needs to play to prove that he deserves another big contract.
Almost camp time.
It needs to be repeated that McCarthy could still be good one day. Vikings should keep him unless his attitude makes it untenable.
Kyler will start because currently he's better & I hope he does well.
McCarthy will get another opportunity here or elsewhere
@Ryanfitz711@SK_NFL I mean Kyler is going to be the starting QB week one. You want a Vikings centric account to create a narrative to...prop up the backup?
@iamtbarnesmn@TPPSkol I mean...I don't think it hating. It's just being realistic. The org can say what they want, but Murray didn't come here to be a back up. So that should tell you what the vikings really think about McCarthy. That's why Dan Patrick was teasing KOC about it. Because it's silly
@Runlikeadeer9@SKORNorth@PhilMackey Certainly possible. Depends how he takes to the system.
The likelihood that McCarthy is QB1 at any point this season minus an injury is zilch. Dan Patrick was teasing KOC about this recently. You don't sign Murray to be your back up no matter what's the org wants you to think
@OrphoeusPlays@bigbird3420@Davidgr24675053@libsoftiktok "They were insurrectionist scum'
It's pretty crazy you can write that and still think you're a good person.
You can vehemently disagree with their politics / opinions without being a loser. Just saying
@ComicsMeta Are you this combative over nothing in real life as well? I think wanting the dialogue to be elevated isn't a big ask. Not asking for Shakespearean language just not for slang. Sorry that you're very sensitive about that 🫂