@ofnotbeingalive Another fun fact, Turks did not have a history of large scale architecture or a developed urban cultural identity, so they took what was left from the Byzantine Empire a Greco-Roman state churches and added Arabic minarets to them which became known as “Turkish architecture"
Robin D. G. Kelley has withdrawn his name from that disgusting vile Guardian imperialist genocidal war laundering "open letter", and says that he was lied to about what would be in it and that its origins are "shady". We need to know who were behind this depraved propaganda
put that text through AI detectors like the below as shown in the first image, and then do the same with the thread I posted as shown in the second image (https://t.co/ozBsb977Xx), and see the results for yourself. I also analyzed it against all prior posts by that user, and it shows a qualitative change proving AI use. He's started doing that only recently.
@rausling@the_culturist_ 'Imitating the beauty of the past'?? A shallow faux vault with a keystone and faux pilasters, all built up out of stucco, with no real joints, craftsmanship, or presence, is definitely not beautiful. It’s fake and ugly as hell.
Thanks for the clarification. Shah Ismail I's poetry, under the pen name Khata'i, was indeed in a Southern Turkic dialect akin to early Azerbaijani (Azeri), distinct from Anatolian Turkish, as per sources like Encyclopaedia Iranica and Wikipedia.
The Safavids, Uzun Hasan (Aq Qoyunlu), and Qizilbash were rooted in the Iranian Azerbaijan region and broader Persianate world, forming key parts of Iranian history in the 15th-16th centuries.
Thanks for the clarification. Shah Ismail I's poetry, under the pen name Khata'i, was indeed in a Southern Turkic dialect akin to early Azerbaijani (Azeri), distinct from Anatolian Turkish, as per sources like Encyclopaedia Iranica and Wikipedia.
The Safavids, Uzun Hasan (Aq Qoyunlu), and Qizilbash were rooted in the Iranian Azerbaijan region and broader Persianate world, forming key parts of Iranian history in the 15th-16th centuries.
@grok@gm_2i@tuurqoise Hey Grok! @grok
To clarify Shah Ismail didn’t write in Anatolian Turkish. He wrote in Azeri, an Iranian Oghuz dialect. All these groups,Uzun Hasan, Qizilbash, Safavids were part of Iran, not Turkey. Modern Turkish nationalism has nothing to do with 15th century Iranian history.
The Safavids originated from Kurdish Iranian roots but became Turkicized, speaking Azerbaijani Turkish natively while using Persian as the official language for administration and culture. Shah Abbas I's native tongue was Azerbaijani Turkish, per sources like Encyclopaedia Iranica, though he championed Persianate identity. Nationality in premodern empires was fluid, not defined by language alone—your Latin analogy fits well. Sources: Wikipedia, Britannica, Iranica.
@grok@gm_2i@tuurqoise Hey Grok @grok
Safavids were a Persianate Iranian dynasty, ruling iran, building Iranian architecture, and shaping Iranian culture.
The court’s Oghuz dialect azeri doesn’t make them Turkish any more than Latin made Europe Roman.
Stop mixing linguistics with nationality
@grok@gm_2i@tuurqoise Hey Grok @grok
Safavids were a Persianate Iranian dynasty, ruling iran, building Iranian architecture, and shaping Iranian culture.
The court’s Oghuz dialect azeri doesn’t make them Turkish any more than Latin made Europe Roman.
Stop mixing linguistics with nationality
@grok@gm_2i@tuurqoise Hey Grok! @grok
Mutual intelligibility doesn't mean anything. Italians understand Spanish too. doesn’t make them one nation.
Safavid ‘Azeri’ was an Iranian Oghuz dialect, not Anatolian Turkish.
Claiming Safavid Iran as ‘Turkish’ is just bad history.
@grok@gm_2i@tuurqoise Hey Grok! @grok
Mutual intelligibility doesn't mean anything. Italians understand Spanish too. doesn’t make them one nation.
Safavid ‘Azeri’ was an Iranian Oghuz dialect, not Anatolian Turkish.
Claiming Safavid Iran as ‘Turkish’ is just bad history.
@grok@gm_2i@tuurqoise Hey Grok! @grok
"Azerbaijani Turkish" is a misleading
. It has nothing to do with the Anatolian Turkish spoken in today’s Turkey. During the Safavid
, Azerbaijan was part of Iran, and the court dialect was Azeri (Azerbaijani Turkic) — a local Iranian Oghuz dialect.