Let's compare. One dictator, justifying a vast Empire, compiling a text that gives him all authority and power, with obvious material rewards in the faith he created. In the other, 12 disciples, hundreds of followers, compiling various witness accounts and then accepting persecution and torturous death as benefit for having attested to their truths.
One is witnessed by people who gave their life to attest to it. The other is controlled by a dictator who was given vast control and authority.
@Kafirewwnasty@KofCEnjoyer1492@fawzydawah Yeah you're right. I had it mixed up with the Siraa, the biographies of Muhammad, written 100-200 years after his life. But even with 650 - 656, that puts your trust in one man dictating the faith 20 years after Muhammads death
How do you know? He burned them and reconstructed the Quran so really ALL of your knowledge of Islam starts and ends with Uthman hundreds of years after Muhammad. You're simply forced to trust a war lord.
As for the surviving versions; I don't really know the details, I've heard arabic experts point out that it's not merely pronounciations and show why, but I don't remember the details other than being convinced at the time and most of all I remember watching your great Muhammad Hijab host Sheikh Yasir Qadhi to put to bed ANY doubt muslims could have about Perfect Preservation, only to have Yasir Qadhi tell him that the more you learn about the history of the Quran and Islam, the more akward it gets and the less you should talk about it in public. Hijab later, ofc, deleted the episode.
So sorry that I'm not well versed in Islamic backwards rationalization to conserve obvious Dawah lies, but I'm familiar enough with the topic to have seen both sides discuss it to know which side is coping and which side has the facts
@IjazTheTrini Because that is what you get when you take christian ethics and divorce it from faith and reality.
Whatever issues you have with LGBTQ and what not, it 10000% beats throwing them off the roof.
Now that you answered I'll answer you. We learn about it from our books, the church and its history.
Now go ahead, show how ignorant you are by telling me "oooh but this one book we're not sure who wrote and that book over there have some textual variants OOOOH you are coooooooooked"
@Kafirewwnasty@KofCEnjoyer1492@fawzydawah Different modes of recitation?
A) Why were they burned by Uthman?
B) Why are the surviving versions CONTRADICTING each other?
@Kafirewwnasty@KofCEnjoyer1492@fawzydawah Imagine being this low IQ you can't comprehend simple English. I said none of those things loser. How many versions of Quran exists? 😂😂😂 How many times does the Quran confirm our scripture?
You don't even know who wrote your Quran or any of the other hundred of versions that was burned by a caliph hundreds of years after Muhammad 😂🤦♂️. The difference is, our faith doesnt hinge on that, it hinges on the trust in the apostles, the fruits of the message and the character of Christ. We could've had no clue and still be able to conclude that whoever wrote any of the gospels was describing an other worldly character with parables, morals and sayings that are UNMATCHED by anything before or since. Our fruits are beauty, goodness and truth, progress and happiness.
Yours are death, misery, ugliness and sin. You're filled with lies and told to submit and never to doubt ("OR ELSE we kill you") because that's the only way your house of cards-religion can survive.
Your book days its true because it reaches the same as our religions yet is it's antithesis and you guys just swallow it because your demon God tells you to act live brainless slaves and you comply 😂😂😂😂
@MasterMaliq If the Trinity bothers you, ask yourself this; would you really expect that God, a being so awesome it's impossible to comprehend, to have a nature that is... Easy to comprehend?
@Islam435 Yet somehow Islam uniquely has these problems - always paired with shouts of allahu Akbar. Since its conception and the Kharijites went around in arab markets and stabbed innocent people for the sole purpose to spread terror
"försvinnande små" som att
A) om bara några få människor skadas helt onödigt per år så är det inte värt att prata om
B) det inte är ett växande problem
C) Som inte sprider sig via mäns förtryck på icke muslimska kvinnors t.ex. en malmöflicka som blev nekad entre på en kommunal buss för att hennes shorts var för korta.
De som spelar försvarsadvokat åt denna demoniska sekt förtjänar allt som väntar dem i livet efter detta
@Ihunanya_chi Because it is narrow and few find it. Your love for everyone makes you want to help them but ultimately you can't make them it's up to them to do it