The topic of immigration enforcement is like the right’s version of Covid hysteria.
“What, do you want millions of Americans to die from illegal immigrants?”
“Just obey orders and you’ll be fine. Do your part.”
“Your rights aren’t absolute. Government officials are acting lawfully, and you don’t have the right to undermine their efforts.”
“Stay home when DHS is in your area if you don’t want to be stopped and questioned.”
“You need to carry and show your papers when you go out. It’s for everyone’s safety.”
“Trust the experts! These former DOJ prosecutors say the Fourth Amendment allows exactly this.”
“Stop spreading misinformation about ICE and CBP. Your words are dangerous and will get more people killed!”
“This is an emergency. I don’t care what the government does. We need to stop the spread of foreigners.”
“The Constitution isn’t a suicide pact.”
Here's how far we have fallen.
The five ICE officers surrounding the Honda Pilot of Renee Good had no authority over her.
Zero.
They have no local law enforcement authority.
She was born in the US. A citizen. They could not have had probable cause of an immigration violation.
The literally did not have the authority to stop & interrogate her — to order her to produce "papers," to yank open the door of her SUV, let alone kill her.
(The US Supreme Court has ruled that US law enforcement can't use deadly force to stop someone fleeing — even if there's a crime involved. And there wasn't a crime.)
So the people saying Good would be alive if she just followed orders — wrong.
Why should she?
ICE works for *her* — not the other way around. They work for us.
You don't have to follow the "orders" of people who have no authority to give you orders.
That's what the Founding Fathers believed, and what they enshrined in the Constitution.
Not: Just do what officials tell you until they can satisfy themselves.
Only Trump and Noem, and ICE, in 2025 and 2026 have decided to discard that.
That is tyranny. That's what Americans fought the Revolution against.
So if you're a conservative, or a Trump supporter, and you've read this far — check your Constitution. Check your Federalist Papers.
You've lost the plot. Of freedom, democracy, even of capitalism.
Certainly of the question of what "authority" law enforcement has over perfectly innocent citizens — going about their business, or driving, or even protesting.
1A. You're obsessed with 2A. But there's an amendment that comes first.
I can empathize with the agent making a split second decision. But what about empathy for the driver? Is she allowed the same empathy for not making perfect decisions under pressure?
In general, I believe that armed law enforcement officials should be held to a higher standard for handling these situations without unloading on unarmed civilians. It’s their job after all.
Yes, but, it should be incumbent upon the (supposedly) trained agents to handle these situations properly and deescalate. Feeling scared doesn’t give someone the right to kill, especially if they’re a trained civil servant - the standard for them to react without killing civilians should be much higher.
It’s scary how many Americans have lost any sense of principles and simply argue every event based on their politics. Principles should be above politics.
Imagine thinking America First means a defending or bolstering a political agenda for another country��
While trying to convince Americans that in order to be America First you have to also defend & fund another nation, willfully and without criticism.
And if you don’t then you just hate all people that have any ties theologically to that said nation.
You could name any other country and you fail to see…Americans would still feel the same.
A full-on resurgence of Christianity in order to "save the west" was a tediously predictable response to the lunacy we have had to endure over the last 15 years or so.
Many of us warned about this and tried to promote an alternative before it was too late: staunch liberalism rooted in secular enlightenment principles, with free speech at its core. And we were called "Nazis" for our troubles.
The over-correction is coming. And I don't expect it to work out well.
If you believe free speech is for you but not your political opponents, you're illiberal.
If no contrary evidence could change your beliefs, you're a fundamentalist.
If you believe the state should punish those with contrary views, you're a totalitarian.
If you believe political opponents should be punished with violence or death, you're a terrorist.
Ezra Klein on Charlie Kirk:
“You can dislike much of what Kirk believed and the following statement is still true: Kirk was practicing politics in exactly the right way. He was showing up to campuses and talking with anyone who would talk to him. He was one of the era’s most effective practitioners of persuasion. When the left thought its hold on the hearts and minds of college students was nearly absolute, Kirk showed up again and again to break it. Slowly, then all at once, he did. College-age voters shifted sharply right in the 2024 election.
“That was not all Kirk’s doing, but he was central in laying the groundwork for it. I did not know Kirk and I am not the right person to eulogize him. But I envied what he built. A taste for disagreement is a virtue in a democracy. Liberalism could use more of his moxie and fearlessness. In the inaugural episode of his podcast, Gov. Gavin Newsom of California hosted Kirk, admitting that his son was a huge fan. What a testament to Kirk’s project.”
“Kirk and I were on different sides of most political arguments. We were on the same side on the continued possibility of American politics. It is supposed to be an argument, not a war; it is supposed to be won with words, not ended through bullets. I wanted Kirk to be safe for his sake, but I also wanted him to be safe for mine, and for the sake of our larger shared project. The same is true for Shapiro, for Hoffman, for Hortman, for Thompson, for Trump, for Pelosi, for Whitmer. We are all safe, or none of us are.”