Do you have any of the below health issues? ๐ If so, DM me.
- Low testosterone
- Erectile dysfunction
- Gynecomastia
- PSSD
- PFS (post finasteride)
- ADHD
- thyroid issues
- gut issues
- anxiety
- excess body fat
- lack of muscle mass
- chronic fatigue
- skin problems
@alphabroworship If youโre applying that T cream scrotally twice a day your DHT levels should be decent unless you have a serious 5AR deficiency. There are some bros that like to go ultra supraphysiological with their DHT levels but thatโs no longer considered TRT ๐
This is the REAL testosterone reference range that you SHOULD be comparing yourself to ๐
Not the cucked Labcorp range that your doctor uses to tell you that youโre fine and โin rangeโ at 291ng/dL ๐คก
Made this years ago and just ran across it again
REAL testosterone reference range
I may change this to:
850-1000: good
1000-1200: great
Whatโs your thoughts
@AntiDoc@BerbarianWizard@PGC1a_RB
+ others
You should definitely consider getting it checked.
Long Estered injectable Testosterone (enanthate, cypionate, etc) tend to have a disproportionately high conversion to estrogen and low conversion to DHT.
Short esters such as Testosterone Propionate injected daily tend to convert better to DHT and less to estrogen.
Transcrotal Testosterone cream/gel will provide the highest DHT conversion.
You can absolutely add in exogenous DHT (injectable or transdermal) to your existing TRT protocol. Many men already do this and they notice immense cognitive and sexual benefits, along with no longer needing to use an AI since DHT keeps estrogenic sides under control (itโs both an aromatase inhibitor and estrogen receptor antagonist).
@dfs_615 Cyproheptadine, DHT, metergoline, lisuride and T3 all help to lower prolactin.
You can always add in some vitamin E and P5P if you really want to double down on prolactin.
Of course thereโs also Cabergoline (0.25mg twice a week will NUKE prolactin quickly).
DHTโs a much stronger androgen than Androsterone, they can be converted interchangeably back and forth. The sublingual androsterone dose here wouldnโt have converted to DHT in large amounts comparable to using DHT directly.
What would be interesting in the context of beard growth here is how local transdermal application of DHT to the beard region would perform. There is yet to be a study done on this.
โThe results show that all the androgens
had a ๐ฌ๐ญ๐ข๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฅ๐๐ญ๐จ๐ซ๐ฒ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ญ ๐จ๐ง ๐๐๐๐ซ๐ ๐ ๐ซ๐จ๐ฐ๐ญ๐ก, ๐๐ง๐๐ซ๐จ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๐ญ๐๐ซ๐จ๐ง๐ ๐ฉ๐ซ๐จ๐๐ฎ๐๐ข๐ง๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐ ๐ซ๐๐๐ญ๐๐ฌ๐ญ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ซ๐๐๐ฌ๐.โ ๐
Dosage used was ๐ ๐ฑ ๐๐๐ฆ๐ /๐๐๐ฒ ๐ฌ๐ฎ๐๐ฅ๐ข๐ง๐ ๐ฎ๐๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฒ.
Would have been interesting to ๐ซ๐๐ฉ๐ฅ๐ข๐๐๐ญ๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐ฌ๐ญ๐ฎ๐๐ฒ ๐ฐ๐ข๐ญ๐ก ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐๐จ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐จ๐ฐ๐ข๐ง๐ ๐๐จ๐ฆ๐ฉ๐จ๐ฎ๐ง๐๐ฌ:
๐ด Sublingual DHT
๐ต Transdermal DHT
Weโve had some great client feedback on ๐๐ซ๐๐ง๐ฌ๐๐๐ซ๐ฆ๐๐ฅ ๐๐๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ซ๐๐๐ฌ๐ข๐ง๐ ๐๐๐๐ซ๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐๐ค๐ง๐๐ฌ๐ฌ ๐๐ง๐ ๐๐๐ง๐ฌ๐ข๐ญ๐ฒ.
Weโre looking forward to hearing feedback on our ๐๐ฎ๐๐ฅ๐ข๐ง๐ ๐ฎ๐๐ฅ ๐๐๐.
One study consisting of 37 infertile-subjects had the men take an undisclosed amount of zinc for 6-months and noted that the men who had testosterone levels on the lower end (less than 480 ng/dL) noticed significant improvements in testosterone and DHT levels, whereas the men on the higher levels of testosterone (more than 480 ng/dL) noted no increases in testosterone, but still significant increases in DHT levels.
On an even more positive note, Nine of the subjects were able to conceive a child during the study period.
For those of you wondering about the ๐ก๐๐ฅ๐ ๐ฅ๐ข๐๐ ๐จ๐ ๐๐จ๐ฉ๐ข๐๐๐ฅ ๐๐๐ ๐
Iโll leave you with this as it speaks for itself ๐ซก
๐งช ๐๐๐ซ๐ฎ๐ฆ ๐๐๐ ๐ฅ๐๐ฏ๐๐ฅ๐ฌ (24hrs AFTER last application of 50mg DHT) = ๐๐๐๐ง๐ /๐๐
๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ซ๐๐๐จ๐ฆ๐ฆ๐๐ง๐ ๐๐จ๐ฌ๐ข๐ง๐ ๐๐๐ ๐ ๐๐ฅ ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ข๐ฅ๐ฒ ๐๐จ๐ซ ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐ฆ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๐ฌ๐ญ ๐ฌ๐ญ๐๐๐ฅ๐ ๐ฅ๐๐ฏ๐๐ฅ๐ฌ although you CAN technically get away with ONCE daily application.
๐ค ๐๐ก๐๐ญ ๐ฌ๐๐ฉ๐๐ซ๐๐ญ๐๐ฌ ๐๐ฅ๐ฉ๐ก๐๐๐๐ฅ๐ฌ ๐๐จ๐ซ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฅ๐๐ฌ ๐๐ซ๐จ๐ฆ ๐ญ๐ซ๐๐๐ข๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง๐๐ฅ ๐ฉ๐ก๐๐ซ๐ฆ๐๐๐๐ฎ๐ญ๐ข๐๐๐ฅ ๐ ๐ซ๐๐๐ ๐๐ซ๐๐ง๐๐๐ซ๐ฆ๐๐ฅ ๐๐๐ซ๐ซ๐ข๐๐ซ๐ฌ?
The ๐ญ๐จ๐๐จ๐ฉ๐ก๐๐ซ๐จ๐ฅ๐ฌ ๐ข๐ง ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐ญ๐ซ๐๐ง๐ฌ๐๐๐ซ๐ฆ๐๐ฅ ๐๐๐ซ๐ซ๐ข๐๐ซ ๐ฌ๐ฅ๐จ๐ฐ ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐ซ๐๐ฅ๐๐๐ฌ๐ ๐จ๐ ๐ญ๐ซ๐๐ง๐ฌ๐๐๐ซ๐ฆ๐๐ฅ ๐๐๐ because they are thick, highly lipophilic oils that blend with the skinโs lipid barrier and allow the hormone to diffuse gradually through the stratum corneum, effectively creating a small ๐ฌ๐ค๐ข๐ง โ๐๐๐ฉ๐จ๐ญโ ๐ญ๐ก๐๐ญ ๐ซ๐๐ฅ๐๐๐ฌ๐๐ฌ ๐๐๐ ๐จ๐ฏ๐๐ซ ๐ญ๐ข๐ฆ๐. ๐
This leads to ๐ฌ๐ฅ๐จ๐ฐ๐๐ซ ๐๐๐ฌ๐จ๐ซ๐ฉ๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง, ๐ฅ๐จ๐ฐ๐๐ซ ๐ฉ๐๐๐ค๐ฌ, ๐๐ง๐ ๐ฆ๐จ๐ซ๐ ๐ฌ๐ญ๐๐๐ฅ๐ ๐๐ฅ๐จ๐จ๐ ๐ฅ๐๐ฏ๐๐ฅ๐ฌ. In contrast, ๐๐๐๐ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐ ๐ฉ๐จ๐ฐ๐๐ซ๐๐ฎ๐ฅ ๐ฉ๐๐ง๐๐ญ๐ซ๐๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง ๐๐ง๐ก๐๐ง๐๐๐ซ that disrupts the skin barrier and rapidly carries dissolved DHT directly across it, producing faster absorption, higher peak concentrations, and a shorter effective duration.
The ๐๐จ๐ฆ๐๐ข๐ง๐๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง ๐จ๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐๐ฌ๐ ๐ข๐ง ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐๐จ๐ซ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฅ๐ ๐ซ๐๐ฌ๐ฎ๐ฅ๐ญ๐ฌ ๐ข๐ง ๐ก๐ข๐ ๐ก ๐ฌ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๐ฌ๐ญ๐๐ฆ๐ข๐ ๐๐๐ฌ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๐ซ๐ฉ๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง ๐ฐ๐ข๐ญ๐ก ๐ญ๐ข๐ฆ๐๐ ๐ซ๐๐ฅ๐๐๐ฌ๐ as weโve seen with client bloodwork results 12 - 24hrs post application (serum DHT levels still significantly elevated).
@hov992 Garlic taste is from DMSO. With regards to it being the real deal, restoration of morning wood is a good sign (especially in someone who hasnโt experienced morning wood in a long time) as well as getting bloodwork done for serum DHT levels.