I am arguing that the way it calculates damages is fundamentally ridiculous. There is a major mathematical difference from "The damages keep adding up" and "The damages continuously compound".
This isn't the exact number used in the study, but lets say 500 billion tonnes of carbon causes $500 billion in climate damages/per 100 years.
Assuming there is no more CO2 added,
If the damage is additive, meaning that carbon never leaves and continues doing the same damage it has done every year, the total damage after 200 years is 1.5 Trillion
If the damage is CONTINUOUSLY COMPOUNDING, which would imply even if no CO2 is added, the damage gets continuously and exponentially worse every time it compounds, the damage after 200 years would be 40 trillion.
Its really not that difficult. Railway is expensive, and doesn't scale very well. The longer the distance, the more expensive the track is to build and maintain. This means it is particularly good in high density, urban environments, where it can move lots of people a comparatively short distance.
Planes, on the other hand, scale very well. They just need a place to take off, and a place to land. That means no matter if the distance is 300 miles, or 3000 miles, the infrastructure cost is exactly the same, they just charge for more time and fuel.
This is why the US isn't investing in high speed rail across the country - because it would never recoup the cost. Flying would still be cheaper.
@cpucfknight@m4rsssi@Celt_mane You guys are actually just ass pulling.
@grok What is the cost, per passenger, of a flight from NYC to LAX and how does it compare to a comparable train ride?
@simeon94@CodeSpiky@Celt_mane No I mean it calculated the damages as continuously compounding interest. It calculated the damages the US has caused as $500 billion. The US could go net-zero TODAY, meaning no more CO2. After 200 years of that, the damages it caused would be about $40 trillion.
@simeon94@CodeSpiky@Celt_mane That study linked in the guardian article is an interesting read, but I think calculating the damages of *any* amount of CO2 emission as effectively infinite given time, using what is essentially a continously compounding interest formula, is certainly *a* choice.
@yo_jaydee In spirit I agree, but the FFXIV Commendation system is almost entirely useless.
It is gamed to hell by people who spam guildhests specifically to farm commendations. Mentors are often notoriously bad at the game, and very rarely actually helpful.
@m4rsssi@Celt_mane Not nearly as hard as the ground you must have been dropped on as a child if you think building and maintaining roughly 3,000 miles of track is less difficult than flying a plane.
@simeon94@CodeSpiky@Celt_mane Oh, ok. You must be fairly knowledgeable on this. Do you have a study at reference showing the dollar cost of climate catastrophes that are *specifically* caused by these planes? I'd like to learn more.
@CodeSpiky@Celt_mane Now it is YOU that is talking out of your ass, are you joking?
You think building and maintaining a TRANS-CONTINENTAL RAILWAY is more cost effective than a plan?
@Matthew74593625@ShitpostGate That wouldn't be how it would shake out tbh. If that map was how it was done, the state around San Francisco would most definitely stay blue, along with the one that encompasses Los Angeles + San Diego + Apparently Las Vegas. Those 3 in the north though? Red, along with Nevada.
@JRC00875@realcountlustig@grok Sure, they may be on the small side to be called a state, but lets not belittle England and Wales like that. We have small states too!
@JRC00875@realcountlustig@grok Thank you for your considerations for giving me some time. After some research, I have decided that in fact no, the UK is not a country. You are our most beloved vassal state, after all. You even have your own cute little states like England and Wales! Glad you take after us.
@JRC00875@realcountlustig@grok Oh no, you misunderstand. I am merely gauging how fond you are of the EU and Eurofederalism, before I decide to indulge your fantasies or not. I wouldn't want to call Europe a country when you might actually want that, after all.