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[Ravenash @Ash1raven]

@OmegaEdred @Pinstripe6969 @LECGVARDIOL So if bucky doens't have any capability due to the death being out of his control and consent

Doesn't tony get a similar break considering he didn't kill wanda parents and it was his weaponry which was supposed to be only sold to US Military not sokovian natives ?

[Ravenash @Ash1raven]

@Noob44825452 @ShitHolmgren @CLlFFBOOTH And tony is not a innocent person so wanda isn't a innocent person either

[Ravenash @Ash1raven]

@Noob44825452 @ShitHolmgren @CLlFFBOOTH Bucky innocent I get...

But wanda ??

Wanda fast forwarded Ultron by putting that vision in Tonys head..and let out the hulk to rampage in a populated city and helped Ultron untill she knew he was going to kill everything

If tony is culpable for his actions so is wanda

[Ravenash @Ash1raven]

@MarzMagiic @geokonic @thelukadoncic Tony shelved the ultron project after Iron Man 3

And then wanda mind fucked him and made him panic and he went to create Ultron without any safeguards.

Tony wouldn't have created utron that fast if it wasnt for wanda and Bruce shares the blame too

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[Ravenash @Ash1raven]

@Calebclind231 @starkslovechild @k2715219637348 They were in a cave with barely enough resources and under the eyes of a terrorists who he had to fool....one mistake and they would torture him...for making a escape plan....

He made Jarvis that's his own creation helping him...it doesn't count...

[Ravenash @Ash1raven]

@Hardwired07 @starkslovechild @k2715219637348 The first suit yes .. he needed help because he was kidnapped in a cave with terrorists breathing down his neck..and we know what he can do alone for example being the suits,the iron legion and finally the nanotech..suit that was one human who could put up a fight against thanos

[Ravenash @Ash1raven]

@opi5um @gobertenjoyer1 @JacksonBrittsny Who only got into the ship because of what ?

Oh right Tony's armour that he made for Peter....without that Peter falls from the atmosphere and fucking dies

At the bottomline tony made hella mistakes but he also is essential to the Universe and for the avengers winning...

[Ravenash @Ash1raven]

@opi5um @gobertenjoyer1 @JacksonBrittsny Banner couldn't figure the time machine out and with his machine they all would end up as geriatrics or babies

Without Tony New York helicarrier falls and New York gets nuked in Avengers

Ill give you Ultron

Without Tony Strange gets captured and thanos gets the time stone

[Ravenash @Ash1raven]

@JacksonBrittsny Without Tony New York gets Nuked - Avengers 1

Without Tony - Accords go through Anyway in Civil War and the entire team gets hunted down

Without Tony - Strange and the Time Stone make it to Thanos and Thanos Bitch Slaps Team Cap even if they kill Vision

[Ravenash @Ash1raven]

@KeyVagabon @antonio19xy @SanguisKultus @sprnkIrsplashes And how many years did it take..?

Or is that not accounted in your hypothetical ?

At that time...the superheroes were only those 12....and the strongest two were off planet...

[Ravenash @Ash1raven]

@nicopazgirl @k12tease Yes but they often either sell better than Carol and Wanda ... at least enough to get their solo books going...

Carol is largely tainted by civil war 2,wanda is popular due to the mcu and Elizabeth Olsen and same with Tony and rdj but Tony and Steve are still relevant to 616

[Ravenash @Ash1raven]

@justaguy0507 @ohen_z57401 How does that make him a better Spider-Man?

[Ravenash @Ash1raven]

@MrSpideyCEO @Thenextantman @StephenKin64776 @pnkeez No he was a famous guy who ruined his career with drugs...so he was...a insurance risk ...

But even before then he won a golden globe...dude was famous

[Ravenash @Ash1raven]

@luffy194639174 @KameTheHermit @SceneinCinema Eternity storm buff will probably be gone soon too...if we are taking hypotheticals of the strongest versions of X-Men then the avengers should get their strongest versions too.. regardless of plot or circumstances.

Jean I'll give that to you that her base state is cracked

[Ravenash @Ash1raven]

@souvlaki420 @NexusPointNews The entire first thirty minutes of the first films of thor tony and Steve is them killing people right left and center

[Ravenash @Ash1raven]

@luffy194639174 @KameTheHermit @SceneinCinema The avengers then get infernal hulk and its lights out for every mutant.. because internal hulk..is the avatar of The One Below All..you know Satan of the Marvel universe

[Ravenash @Ash1raven]

@JackInTheBox05 @Rude_BwoyEazy @Paige40329935 @SaintDon @kmtheghost The TOAA is above that phoenix and the TOBA is equal to TOAA..and who's the avatar of TOBA... right now ?

Hulk is so Infernal Hulk is gonna beat Phoenix 10/10 times

[Ravenash @Ash1raven]

@2daback @artschooldrop When is this even stated?

As far as I know Tony is worth more than Wareen and Emma and Charles combined

[Ravenash @Ash1raven]

@darkseidisbuxas @crazer_lorde @Omaranha_player Yeah but if Vulture Showed up with his junkyard tech...to a fight with stark...he's getting slimed in less than ten seconds