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@Patti881921424@PaulinusOfTrier Compare Dignitatis Humanae to Quas Primas or compare Libertas Prestantissimus to Ut Unum Sint. I could go on and on. Thepost-conciliar documents say almost the exsct opposite of the pre-conciliar ones. It's not just about the mass but about the deppsit of the faith!
The trailer of the SSPX video came out today and has caused quite a stir. The videos themselves may change public perceptions radically ; if the Holy See is sensitive to public perceptions this could make quite a difference.
JUST IN: “This Vatican-sponsored destructive subversion must come to an end now. Souls are endangered by the scandalous false teachings being propagated by the Synod. Pope Leo needs to strengthen the brethren in the Faith by putting an end to this poisonous betrayal of God’s truth.”
‘Synodal Shepherds’ Attack the Sheep — Fr. Gerald Murray on the final report of Study Group No. 9 released earlier this week by the Secretariat of the Synod: https://t.co/JVkIML47Ub @GeraldMurray8@catholicthing
I am a new Catholic but I am deeply concerned about Bishop Barron. Paula White in an unabashed heretic.
He remained silent when His Eminence was refused from the Holy Sepulchre but penned a Twitter novel lambasting Carrie PreJean over her theologically-sound views regarding Zionism. Today, the Bishop promotes Ben Shapiro as his friend— Ben, to his credit, has always been honest about his views that Christ was a criminal who is burning in feces in hell. I will remind you he also once told Ben that he could be saved, before backtracking.
I ask you sincerely, what is the proper recourse for this within the church?
@Doublemindedman I do think there will be a partially literal fulfillment of Ezekiel in the sense of the restoration of national Israel, but through their incorporation into the New Covenant, not through the restoration of animal sacrifice.
First, I do not frequent SSPX chapels. Second, I am not even a regular Latin Mass devotee. I go to the Novus Ordo Mass most of the time. Third, I cannot understand why THIS is such a major issue in the Church when there is a crisis in faith and doctrine almost everywhere. It's hard for me to take the pope seriously when he allows flagrant heresy among the bishops in Germany, while threatening to excommunicate doctrinally sound bishops on a technicality. Fourth, while the bishops of the SSPX have an obligation to obey the pope, the pope has an obligation to be a father to the SSPX. They need bishops, and the Vatican has been giving them the runaround for years, just like it did to Archbishop Lefebvre in the 1980s. While on the one hand, some say the SSPX is disobedient, the argument can equally be made that the pope himself is negligent in his fatherly duties toward them.
Blessed Anna Catherine Emmerich saw exactly the state of the churzh in the 21st century
“Among the strangest things that I saw, were long processions of bishops. Their thoughts and utterances were made known to me through images issuing from their mouths. Their faults towards religion were shown by external deformities. A few had only a body, with a dark cloud of fog instead of a head. Others had only a head, their bodies and hearts were like thick vapors. Some were lame; others were paralytics; others were asleep or staggering.”
“I saw what I believe to be nearly all the bishops of the world, but only a small number were perfectly sound…”
--- Blessed Anna Catherine Emmerich
@FreeIrishman7 Here's the whole video. It's still bad because he uses the examples of adultery and murder as if it had to be something terrible. Also it toward the end of the video almost like an afterthought. https://t.co/SAD3YCFxOV
“The Episcopal Consecrations Are Not a Formal Schism”
Q&A about the status of the SSPX and the upcoming consecrations
Rev Jaime Mercant Simó, a Spanish diocesan priest and professor at the Center for Theological Studies of Mallorca Diocesan priest from Spain, wrote on https://t.co/YwRAirJ6xq on February 22 about the Priestly Fraternity of St Pius X. His thoughts.
1. Will the Lefebvrists commit a mortal sin with these episcopal consecrations?
— No, not at all.
2. Is it not a schismatic act?
— No, formally it is not.
3. Why is it formally not a schism?
— Because, for a “perfect schism” to occur, there must be a clear intention to perform a schismatic act and to establish, with the new bishops, a hierarchical jurisdiction parallel to the one existing in the Roman Catholic Church. In this case, neither of these two things will occur.
4. Could it at least be an act of disobedience?
— Yes, indeed it is, at least materially, since Rome does not want these consecrations to take place.
5. Then, do they commit a mortal sin by disobedience?
— No, because in this case the intention of the authority of the SSPX, of the consecrators and of the future ordinands appears to be upright. They invoke the “state of necessity”, which would justify the “material disobedience”. In this regard, we have no objective reasons to doubt their conscience nor their upright intention, which is the good of the souls they assist.
6. But the “latae sententiae” excommunication will occur, that is, automatic and immediate, right?
— From a canonical perspective, yes, but, in my humble opinion, that excommunication will be null; I believe there are sufficient theological and philosophical-juridical reasons to conclude this, although I know that a large part of canonists will deny it from a purely legalistic point of view. However, I think that, in addition to the fundamental motive of the “state of necessity”, the “formal reason” why such a penalty should actually be incurred fails, since there is no objective intention of formal schism nor will a parallel jurisdiction be created, I repeat.
7. Did Msgr. Lefebvre receive the penalty of excommunication?
— Yes, as these bishops will surely receive it, but his excommunication was also null, since, on the supernatural level of the Mystical Body, that bishop never ceased to be in communion with the Church.
8. What do you mean by that?
— The essence of communion is threefold, namely: doctrinal, sacramental and hierarchical. I therefore consider that Bishop Lefebvre and, by extension, the SSPX, did not deny any of these three “essential dimensions” of ecclesial communion.
9. Is the SSPX in doctrinal communion?
— Of course, it has never ceased to teach what the Church has always believed.
10. But don’t the Lefebvrists constantly question the documents of the Second Vatican Council?
— They do not make a total amendment, as people commonly believe, considering that in its texts there are elements that form part of the “depositum fidei”, but they address, with a critical spirit, certain “delicate” issues in which theological discussion is legitimate.
11. How can you say such a barbarity?
— I can say it because the very “nature” of the Council allows me to do so.
12. What do you mean by that?
— I mean that Vatican II was a council of a “pastoral nature”, not dogmatic, and therefore did not enjoy the charism of infallibility, because at no time did it intend to define or condemn anything infallibly; that was the express decision of the majority of the Council Fathers. However, in the post-conciliar period, despite this “pastoral nature”, some have tried to turn that council into a “super-dogma”.
13. Super-dogma? This is disrespectful. Why are you using the Lefebvrian narrative?
— I am in fact using the very words of Joseph Ratzinger, who, during a visit to the bishops of Chile (1988), used these same terms.
14. On the other hand, is it true that the SSPX is in sacramental communion?
— Its sacraments are not only valid, but they are celebrated according to the traditional rites that the Church has used from time immemorial.
15. But it is obvious that the SSPX is not in hierarchical communion, right?
— Although, at the canonical level, its “institutional situation” is irregular and imperfect, the Fraternity does not cease to recognize the Pope of Rome as the supreme pastor of the universal Church. In fact, it also recognizes and respects the jurisdiction of all the bishops of the Catholic world.
16. Can you give me proof of what you are saying?
— In every Mass of the SSPX, without exception, the priests name, in the “canon missae”, the Pope and the local bishop.
17. Isn’t this a very weak argument?
— By God, it is not. The most formal and public manifestation of hierarchical recognition takes place precisely in the holy Mass, specifically in the canon.
18. Are you a Lefebvrist or a pro-Lefebvrist?
— Neither one nor the other, sir; I go my own way. I am simply Catholic and, as such, I have a critical spirit, that is, the good habit of using reason and the judgment of discernment.
19. But it seems that you agree with the SSPX on everything?
— No, I do not. In certain attitudes and issues I do not agree, but these, in my view, are secondary and accidental. In what is “essential”, I agree 100% with the Fraternity and therefore I will not contribute to its unjust and disproportionate public “demonization”.
20. Can you tell me what is essential?
— The “essential” is its “Catholicity”. Full stop.
21. But aren’t you worried about the “drift” of the Lefebvrists?
— I am much more concerned about the swarm of heterodox, blasphemous and sacrilegious people that exist everywhere, especially in Germany. I am also troubled by the double standard that seems to exist when it comes to applying penalties and censures by ecclesiastical authority.
22. So, what solution do you see to the current Lefebvrian problem?
— First of all, I believe that Rome should be benevolent and formally accept the consecration of these next bishops, while at the same time it should recognize the spiritual fruits of the apostolate of the SSPX. I think this would be a true gesture of mercy and intelligence; both things are not mutually exclusive.
23. Aren’t you afraid that you will be criticized for these opinions?
— No, because I am a priest of the Catholic Church, not the pastor of a sect, and therefore, with respect, I can and must exercise, in my life of faith, the true freedom of the children of God.
H/T @gloriatv
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The devil has been so crafty in how he has plotted the destruction of the Church that he has people screaming ‘obedience’ to the SSPX while they themselves and their local parishes are being disobedient to 20 centuries of the Church.
True obedience is ordered toward the salvation of souls. To ignore the crisis in the Church (which is evident to even non-Catholics now) is a betrayal of yourself and of revealed truths.
The SSPX are guilty of nothing other than preserving Tradition. Thank God for them and for Archbishop Lefebvre. Forgive them Lord who are falsely accusing them, they do not know how indebted they are to that holy Archbishop who painfully took it upon himself, practically alone, and like a modern St Athanasius kept your holy priesthood, Mass and sacraments intact.
One day the whole Church will recognise it, but for now only a part. 🙏🏼
Let's play a game, it is called, copy and paste things from Church Fathers. I will go now.
Story of Saint Eusebius: Vast regions of the East were left without orthodox shepherds. Eusebius took it upon himself to travel throughout Syria, Phoenicia, and Palestine — often in disguise, wearing a soldier's cloak and hood — secretly ordaining priests and consecrating bishops to keep the orthodox hierarchy alive in territories controlled by or sympathetic to the Arians. He was essentially running an underground mission to preserve Catholic orthodoxy order in a hostile environment.
Eusebius acted without explicit papal mandate in many of his consecrations and ordinations. The Church has consistently honoured him as a saint rather than condemned him as a schismatic.