Benjamin Elliott

Bucs. Gators. TV.

[Benjamin Elliott @BenDavidElliott]

@jayythewave Pop Punk lives on. Some newer bands:
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[Benjamin Elliott @BenDavidElliott]

I agree the best in the NFL can truly threaten both. But most guys have a preferred way of winning. I’m saying I prefer guys with speed, whereas your post on a list of guys who win more with power ranked at the top implied you feel the opposite. Nobody is 100% finesse, they’re not robots. But you need speed for speed to power. Leonard Floyd, Will McDonald, Odafe Oweh, Haason Reddick, Bryce Huff, Josh Hines-Allen, Nolan Smith, Nik Bonitto, Bryce Huff, all have been useful players that have stuck around in the league despite being “finesse” players. Meanwhile all the busts in the 1st round I already listed are your guys who primarily threatened with power like the Faulk/Young/Parker types

[Benjamin Elliott @BenDavidElliott]

Will Campbell specifically struggles with power primarily due to length problems. Not indicative of an average starting tackle at all. Most NFL tackles can handle power. Some can handle speed and power. Many can’t handle true speed off the edge. The guys that can get drafted top 10

[Benjamin Elliott @BenDavidElliott]

Payton Turner, Tyree Wilson, Myles Murphy, Felix anudike-uzomah, Lukas Van Ness, Darius Robinson, Mykel Williams, Shemar Stewart. 1st round power rushers with a “high floor” who have done nothing over the past few years. NFL teams think the same as you. They aren’t learning their lesson

[Benjamin Elliott @BenDavidElliott]

I get it. You think they need both tools. But you are focusing on top tier guys for your examples. Yeah, those guys have it all. I’m just saying if they only have 1 tool, I prefer juice over power. Your post on this list of power rushers looks like you are advocating for Zion, Faulk, TJ Parker. All guys I wouldn’t touch til the 3rd round

[Benjamin Elliott @BenDavidElliott]

@PapaStew80 @CDonnick1 DPOTY is a very narrow viewpoint. There’s 64 starting edge rushers in nfl. Many in a 3 or 4 man rotation. Most guys that put up sack impact passers are speed guys. You guys can keep your high floor run stuffing edge rushers with no pass rush moves

[Benjamin Elliott @BenDavidElliott]

@JCAllenNFL I’m not a Trotter guy, but wouldn’t hate the pick if we got him in that range. Would much prefer getting Rodriguez round 1. Delane won’t be there.

[Benjamin Elliott @BenDavidElliott]

Coach discussion has some nuance to it. Lovie was hired before Licht. Licht had to fire Lovie, and promoted Koetter to keep the hope of Jameis alive. That was a popular move at the time. Never worked out. Bruce Arians was a great hire. How Bruce handled his retirement after Brady came back, announcing it and naming Bowles his successor and then sticking around felt a little like Licht got overruled by ownership. Leftwich also an Arians holdover, completely backfired. Nailed the hire with Canales, but because we have a DC head coach, always a possibility OC gets poached. Worked out because nailed the next hire even more in Coen, which was definitely the succession plan. Tried to make him highest paid OC to keep him here, and would currently be our coach this offseason if he had (assuming similar melt down of team).

[Benjamin Elliott @BenDavidElliott]

Solid group for sure. Good enough to win. Baker being healthy and/or more consistent is the key. Our coaches outside of 1 year of Liam Coen have been below average. But QBs and coaches are the hardest parts of a team to find and get right. Firing guys every 2-3 years hasn’t worked for many franchises.

[Benjamin Elliott @BenDavidElliott]

@JCAllenNFL Darrell Jackson isn’t good. 3rd round DT makes sense but find someone else

[Benjamin Elliott @BenDavidElliott]

@thewiz0915 @DamperFN @LanceZierlein Are you talking about Shemar Stewart or Myles Murphy? Or Tyree Wilson? Maybe Lukas Van Ness?

[Benjamin Elliott @BenDavidElliott]

@fball_insights Run defending edges with no pass rush juice can be signed off the street. No need to waste premium draft capital.

[Benjamin Elliott @BenDavidElliott]

@tst1860 @JCAllenNFL Not a lot of pass rushing DTs in this class. Caleb Banks, a bunch of run stuffers, then…? I think teams looking for juice are gonna take swings after the first 2 rounds and start getting guys like Halton and Proctor who are disruptive sub-rushers, with developmental upside.

[Benjamin Elliott @BenDavidElliott]

@JCAllenNFL Seems like 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th+ rounders is who they’re meeting with. No linebackers may signal that’s where they’re going round 1

[Benjamin Elliott @BenDavidElliott]

@TampaBayTre @JoshNorris Rare L.

[Benjamin Elliott @BenDavidElliott]

@LedyardNFLDraft I’m surprised you’re not even lower on him after your comments on the pod. Comments sounded like a day 3 guy

[Benjamin Elliott @BenDavidElliott]

@CDonnick1 In most years I’d agree a team with Bucs needs should go edge rd 1, off ball LB rd 2. This draft? Get Rodriguez/Allen rd1 and take whoever is left at edge at 46. The second round LBs are a huge step down from rd 1.