Controversial opinion: Jazz is simply failed music.
It sounds like a child scribbling all over the page. Formless, meaningless, and unpleasant. Just a bunch of random noise that people trick themselves into liking, while they become numb to true musical quality in the process.
The total randomness and atonality of jazz is the PURE opposite of what music is supposed to be.
@hoot_ink I’m honestly conflicted about jason’s tenure. He’s situated in a really weird point in comic history, literally seen from his pre crisis to post crisis lore, his relationship to Bruce felt a lot more endearing, but his characterization overtime is just sooo inconsistent
@hoot_ink I don’t actually, bc then there isnt a story, I like flawed characters but i can recognize when something was reckless. Also don’t get it twisted, Bruce is massively at fault, but from his perspective, he’s actively grieving and grasping to blame anyone but himself
@hoot_ink because for every virtue, there’s two vices. It’s easy to mistake wrecklessness for courage when emotions are high, which is what Jason did, but acting like it was rational is not true. Especially considering the stakes of the story. By God, the joker is the ambassador of Iran
I feel it’s a case where Loeb set out to write a Gwen story and Sale, because he understood what was actually interesting, had MJ take it over like she did the comics half way through. Even on the covers of the series she takes up a lot of attention
@b1gch33sy@Murilocea@hoot_ink Again, I don’t disagree with you. I’m summarizing the events, not analyzing them. Jason was justified, but still ignored Bruce. Two truths can be realized
@b1gch33sy@Murilocea@hoot_ink Well yeah, conflict has to happen in a story. But if you’re looking at the situation from a birds eye view, Bruce told Jason that he was suspended from being Robin, and Jason ignored him twice. Analyzing and summarizing a story aren’t the same. Jason died bc he acted
@facundochiari@usagi_foo13@ali_ninjashoyo Yeah but his personality, motivations, AND backstory are not really distinct enough to separate him from Dick. Literally “the flying todds”. It doesn’t really matter anyway bc his post crisis version is more important anyway. And more interesting
@facundochiari@usagi_foo13@ali_ninjashoyo I mean, I read some of pre crisis Jason and honestly he does feel like a dick clone. If you were to make a Venn diagram of dick and Jason’s robin, they would nearly overlap. There is an argument that Jason has more of a father/son dynamic but that’s not enough for me to care
@0utoflucky@hoot_ink When he left to search for the joker, did he not explicitly tell Jason to stay put until he got back? I’m genuinely asking bc it’s been a while since I’ve read it. Either way, most of Jason’s character to me is pretty inconsistent from his creation to now
@usagi_foo13@ali_ninjashoyo I’m not really a Jason fan, I mostly read silver/Bronze Age Batman, when I was in high school I read red hood and the outlaws and some of Morrison’s run. But this is my understanding of him
@Murilocea@hoot_ink Bro I can’t even see the goal post anymore. We’re talking about a story where the joker became the ambassador of Iran, you can call it stupid but it happened. Just like he didn’t listen to Bruce
@hoot_ink I fell down a Jason rabbit hole like 2 years ago and i very distinctly remember him getting fired as robin but he left to track down his mother anyway. Is that not definitionally disobeying Bruce’s wishes for him to calm down and take time away from fighting