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@OnsetMMA@shortyman09 Bro, the only "advantage" you have over me is perhaps the place you were born (even though you don't look American to me...). In everything else I am better, specially at reading and understanding what I read.
@Moniker1221@shortyman09 This is so dumb. If it's written "kids only", "14 and under", somewhere on the menu or on a sign on a wall, then ok, I guess, but if it is not written anywhere and they refused to serve me "just because", I'd simply stand up and leave and never come back.
@Shmooze@JesterJum Yeah, but the restaurant accepted the risk when it priced the kids' menu below its cost. If an adult enters and asks for a kids' menu meal, the restaurant should not have the right to change the price on the spot just because it was an adult asking. Pacta sund servanda.
Woah, I've read this story about the dumb missionary who "lost his faith" (that he never had to begin with, since a dumb affirmation like "you've never seen Jesus" made he lose it) like, 10 years ago. Why is it trending now?
New: Joe Rogan was visibly intrigued when former Christian Daniel Everett reveals he spent years in the Amazon trying to convert the PirahĂŁ tribe to Christianity, but their questions about Jesus ended up turning him into an ATHEIST:
âYou Donât Know Anyone Whoâs Ever Seen Him?â
CONTEXT: Everett wasn't a casual Christian who lost interest in religion.
He went to Brazil in 1977 as a missionary, learned one of the worldâs most unusual languages and translated the Gospel of Mark into PirahĂŁ specifically to help convert them.
But he ran into a cultural rule that made Christianity extraordinarily difficult to communicate.
Everett has described the PirahĂŁ as placing enormous importance on what he calls the âimmediacy of experienceâ:
Information carries special weight when you personally witnessed it or when it comes from somebody who did.
Then they started asking Everett about Jesus.
EVERETT: âThey said, âYeah, yeah, but youâve seen him. What did he look like?ââ
âI said, âWell, I never saw him.ââ
âI donât know anyone whoâs ever seen Jesus.â
EVERETT, quoting the PirahĂŁ: âYou donât know anyone whoâs ever seen him, and youâre just talking about him the whole time, telling us about him.â
âWe donât want to hear about this anymore.â
This wasnât an overnight conversion to atheism.
Everett says he arrived in Brazil in 1977, was having serious doubts by around 1982, and by roughly 1985 he no longer believed.
He then kept his loss of faith largely secret for years because his family, livelihood and social world were deeply intertwined with Christianity.
And there was an experiment that makes this story even more fascinating.
Everett actually translated and recorded the Gospel of Mark in PirahĂŁ.
He played it for a group of PirahĂŁ men.
They understood what they were hearing.
But when they recognized the PirahĂŁ man whose voice was telling the story, their response was essentially:
He didnât witness Jesus either. Why should his recording change anything?
The missionary had successfully translated the Gospel.
The deeper problem was that he couldnât translate the standard of evidence Christianity was asking them to accept.
Thereâs an important wrinkle here:
Calling the PirahĂŁ simply âatheistsâ would be misleading.
Everett has described them talking about spirits and supernatural-looking beings, but crucially, they often speak about those experiences as things they believe they or someone they know actually encountered.
So this wasn't necessarily:
religious tribe vs atheist tribe.
It was closer to a collision between two radically different ways of establishing truth:
Christianity: testimony and traditions transmitted across thousands of years can carry religious authority.
PirahĂŁ, as Everett describes them: Who actually saw it?
That cultural principle became so important to Everett that he later made it part of his academic work on PirahĂŁ language and cognition.
And THAT triggered another enormous controversy.
Everett argued that PirahĂŁ culture constrains communication toward immediate experience and that this helps explain extraordinary features he identified in their language.
Other prominent linguists challenged both his linguistic analysis and some of his claims about PirahĂŁ culture.
So even the intellectual framework underneath this incredible story remains debated.
But one thing isn't really disputed:
Everett entered the Amazon intending to change the PirahĂŁ worldview.
Instead, decades later, he wrote that their happiness and their demand for evidence he could not provide helped cause him to abandon his own faith.
Eventually he returned to them and told them: âI donât believe this stuff anymore either.â
Their response?
âOh, now youâre like us.â
New: Joe Rogan was visibly intrigued when former Christian Daniel Everett reveals he spent years in the Amazon trying to convert the PirahĂŁ tribe to Christianity, but their questions about Jesus ended up turning him into an ATHEIST:
âYou Donât Know Anyone Whoâs Ever Seen Him?â
CONTEXT: Everett wasn't a casual Christian who lost interest in religion.
He went to Brazil in 1977 as a missionary, learned one of the worldâs most unusual languages and translated the Gospel of Mark into PirahĂŁ specifically to help convert them.
But he ran into a cultural rule that made Christianity extraordinarily difficult to communicate.
Everett has described the PirahĂŁ as placing enormous importance on what he calls the âimmediacy of experienceâ:
Information carries special weight when you personally witnessed it or when it comes from somebody who did.
Then they started asking Everett about Jesus.
EVERETT: âThey said, âYeah, yeah, but youâve seen him. What did he look like?ââ
âI said, âWell, I never saw him.ââ
âI donât know anyone whoâs ever seen Jesus.â
EVERETT, quoting the PirahĂŁ: âYou donât know anyone whoâs ever seen him, and youâre just talking about him the whole time, telling us about him.â
âWe donât want to hear about this anymore.â
This wasnât an overnight conversion to atheism.
Everett says he arrived in Brazil in 1977, was having serious doubts by around 1982, and by roughly 1985 he no longer believed.
He then kept his loss of faith largely secret for years because his family, livelihood and social world were deeply intertwined with Christianity.
And there was an experiment that makes this story even more fascinating.
Everett actually translated and recorded the Gospel of Mark in PirahĂŁ.
He played it for a group of PirahĂŁ men.
They understood what they were hearing.
But when they recognized the PirahĂŁ man whose voice was telling the story, their response was essentially:
He didnât witness Jesus either. Why should his recording change anything?
The missionary had successfully translated the Gospel.
The deeper problem was that he couldnât translate the standard of evidence Christianity was asking them to accept.
Thereâs an important wrinkle here:
Calling the PirahĂŁ simply âatheistsâ would be misleading.
Everett has described them talking about spirits and supernatural-looking beings, but crucially, they often speak about those experiences as things they believe they or someone they know actually encountered.
So this wasn't necessarily:
religious tribe vs atheist tribe.
It was closer to a collision between two radically different ways of establishing truth:
Christianity: testimony and traditions transmitted across thousands of years can carry religious authority.
PirahĂŁ, as Everett describes them: Who actually saw it?
That cultural principle became so important to Everett that he later made it part of his academic work on PirahĂŁ language and cognition.
And THAT triggered another enormous controversy.
Everett argued that PirahĂŁ culture constrains communication toward immediate experience and that this helps explain extraordinary features he identified in their language.
Other prominent linguists challenged both his linguistic analysis and some of his claims about PirahĂŁ culture.
So even the intellectual framework underneath this incredible story remains debated.
But one thing isn't really disputed:
Everett entered the Amazon intending to change the PirahĂŁ worldview.
Instead, decades later, he wrote that their happiness and their demand for evidence he could not provide helped cause him to abandon his own faith.
Eventually he returned to them and told them: âI donât believe this stuff anymore either.â
Their response?
âOh, now youâre like us.â
(2/2) but considering the general state of the world, they shouldn't boast and brag about their egregores. Specially online. Keep low profile, keep offline.
(1/2) Good men everywhere in the world should be forming communities, clans, egregores, etc. to support each other, forming like-minded groups with members with multiple skills : lawyers, doctors, accountants, plumbers, woodworkers, IT guys, etc.