@KillThatGuyPls@Rekkieskat@HatesPorter@JozuJoestarr@Chocarage03 but that’s pretty obvious. Religion helps prevent suicide just as it helps contribute to it, as much as you don’t want to admit for some reason. And literally nothing after that comma is said in the article. It says community is a preventive, does not say fear doesn’t contribute.
@KillThatGuyPls@Rekkieskat@HatesPorter@JozuJoestarr@Chocarage03 First sentence of the abstract is obvious contextualization. Then in the conclusion they literally say “religious affiliation is protective against suicide attempts and suicide, but not suicidal ideation.” I see what you’re referencing about it contributing to suicide-
@KillThatGuyPls@Rekkieskat@HatesPorter@JozuJoestarr@Chocarage03 i feel like you kinda ignored the fact that suicidal people have usually already passed “naturally not wanting to die and the fear of unknown”. Again not saying the fear mongering is good for mental health or ethical but it undeniably stops some from committing.
@KillThatGuyPls@Rekkieskat@HatesPorter@JozuJoestarr@Chocarage03 idk if youre getting what im saying, but im saying (though i dont believe it) some people do not kill themselves because they’re scared of hell or find help through religion. And if not adding to the fear of death, what stress is religion adding that’s relevant to the topic??
@KillThatGuyPls@Rekkieskat@HatesPorter@JozuJoestarr@Chocarage03 i get your point, and i agree that religious stress isn’t good for mental health. I just feel that’s its a bit disingenuous to imply that the religious stress in question does not deter a lot of people from committing.
@KillThatGuyPls@Rekkieskat@HatesPorter@JozuJoestarr@Chocarage03 fully agree, but my point was that saying that the person is a bum and that they don’t matter just because they’re religious is insensitive and ignores the fact that some people genuinley don’t kill themselves because of religion
@Rekkieskat@HatesPorter@KillThatGuyPls@JozuJoestarr@Chocarage03 you lost me bro, even though i don’t support religion it can be the one thing stopping people from ending it sometimes and I wouldn’t say that they don’t matter bc of that they’re just misguided 😭