@FloridScott@JordenCollins @bethallisonbarr @Pastakeith Then, if you are American evangelical or Catholic, you’re the one person I have ever heard who has actually honestly argued so in my faith experience. I hope you also greet each of your brothers in Christ with a holy kiss.
@JordenCollins@FloridScott @bethallisonbarr @Pastakeith Quite a personal attack out of left field. I am very white and very male and embrace both, thank you. And I can be both and fully support women in leadership of churches, supported by women leaders in the OT and NT and through history.
@JordenCollins@FloridScott @bethallisonbarr @Pastakeith And is also powerful enough and personal enough to have recognized it was simply a letter that would have far-reaching consequences and made sure there was enough messaging throughout the rest of the scripture to make it clear that women are vital and important in leadership.
@JordenCollins@FloridScott @bethallisonbarr @Pastakeith Paul was also a human who was severely limited by a culture and mindset that treated women as property, who probably never imagined a world where women would be educated and elected by entire nations as heads of state. His cultural limitations should inform our understanding.
@JordenCollins@FloridScott @bethallisonbarr @Pastakeith So you *do* cover your head in prayer and make the case that all women should as well? You *do* believe and make the case that men should keep their hair short? With equal strength? 1 Corinthians is as “clear” as 1 Timothy 2.
@JordenCollins@FloridScott @bethallisonbarr @Pastakeith Because he’s closed to the Spirit of God regardless. That’s the actual issue, not the gender of the person who’s speaking the truth. Artificially limiting women because of Paul’s statement of personal practice works against the Spirit and the Bible’s story of empowered women.
@JordenCollins@FloridScott @bethallisonbarr @Pastakeith And all of Paul’s writing also includes personal preferences and expressions because they are letters of a man. Do you argue as intently with equal value and that women should cover their heads and men must keep short hair?
@JordenCollins@FloridScott @bethallisonbarr @Pastakeith No husband who doesn’t attend will be open to anyone telling him what’s wrong with his life without open ears and heart. The Holy Spirit does that part, and Spirit can and does speak through women. Your premise artificially diminishes the work of the Spirit in the lives of men.
@FloridScott@JordenCollins @bethallisonbarr @Pastakeith I don’t find women-led churches or church boards to be oriented toward women. In my experience, they are oriented toward everyone, which is the whole concept of Gal. 3:28. Paul starts the 1 Timothy passage with an “I” as well, his own personal opinion and preference.
@JordenCollins@FloridScott @bethallisonbarr @Pastakeith I have not found this to be the case. I have found women pastors and elders to be inspiring, challenging, passionate, encouraging, compassionate and understanding. Alienation is not something I have experienced or felt with female pastors.
@lyzl King bed, headboard, matching nightstands and dressers, mattress cover, fitted sheet, bottom sheet, flat sheet, lightly weighted blanket, colorful comforter (that I rarely use), 5-6 pillows (I only use 1) - and yes, I wash the sheets and pillowcases regularly
@AnnLWagner I remember canceling Disney and Abercrombie & Fitch and others on behalf of the Baptists in the 90s. I’m 100% sure cancel culture is not a recent creation of the Democrats.
@TheAmberPicota In these moments, I find solace in the discovery (after her death) that Mother Teresa seems to have experienced this sense of distance and silence with God for much of her life as she was doing such amazing, humble work with the least of these in God’s name.
@iproposethis@patrickbcumming But is use of a word appropriative simply because its etymology doesn’t trace to your personal culture? Magic and alchemy came from Greek and Arabic through French. Anonymous, entrepreneur, guru, safari, wanderlust all came from other cultures and language. Why concern then here?