@alexboge Isn't it the case that you only see muscle movements in the later versions—the ones that have all been edited—whereas in the original film you don't see any of that, simply because it's all too far away!?
If you are interested in the history of the claim that Lockheed Martin possesses 12 alien flying saucers, I've compiled a timeline of the contradictory, confusing statements by major UFO figures and the ever-expanding mythology. https://t.co/i1YissUNMr
"They’ve done worse than threatened people to keep their secrets. And they’ll do it again…"
People have seen too many movies if they believe this shit. Including Jay and whoever he was talking to here— IF he’s even recounting a true story.
No, Lue Elizondo (@LueElizondo). The only reason you’re crying about the UFO “community” is because the members of the community (like myself) have caught you multiple times outright lying to the public and claiming ordinary things (like reflections of chandeliers on balcony windows and crop irrigation circles) are “UFOs”.
Whatever your motives are, whether it be for clout, to sell books, monetary gain, or pure stupidity, one thing is for certain: you are not a credible person and you’re a fraud.
The very ppl demanding the govt reveal proof of nonhuman tech and bodies (Mellon, Elizondo, Grusch etc.) have conceded on the record that no proof has been established.
They’ve never personally seen any craft or bodies. They merely believe the stories of ppl who claim they have.
@MiddleOfMayhem ufospeak translation:
• confirmed = said something I like
• evidence = anything I like
• misinfo = anything I don’t like
• debunker = anyone who says anything I don’t like
I went through the whole Joe Rogan interview with David Grusch, not just the reptilian clip everyone is passing around. Here's what the full thing looks like once you sort it out.
Things Grusch says he personally witnessed of the phenomenon itself: one. A video. A pan, not a close-up, of three or four bodies. He says he didn't get a good look, couldn't tell gender, won't say when or where. That's the entirety of his firsthand evidence.
He's admirably clear about this, by the way. "As far as I can remember, I have no experience with the phenomenon." Never saw a craft. Never saw a being. No sighting, no encounter, nothing.
Everything else comes from somewhere else.
Roughly 40 things he was told by sources he won't name. The reptilians. The dead Greys alongside them. US personnel hurt and killed. Our guys shooting the reptilians dead. Telepathy. Underwater bases the size of city blocks. The whole catalogue of craft shapes and occupant types.
Around 20 things he flags as his own hypothesis. Sentient plasma. Psychotronic countermeasures. Bio-engineering. AI disclosing before the government does.
And about 25 moments where Rogan presses for a detail that could actually be checked and he goes "I don't know," "I never had access," "I'll let the government handle that one." Dates, locations, numbers, origins, how many of our people died. All withheld.
One piece of firsthand evidence, and a very large amount of everything else.
Here's why that matters more than the scaly gorillas.
The move I expect from the serious UFO crowd is to quietly drop the reptilians and keep the crash retrievals. Treat the embarrassing part as an outlier and carry on.
You can't do that. It's all one sourcing chain. Same unnamed friends, same classified rooms, same confidence in his voice. He doesn't present the reptilians as weaker than the rest. He presents them exactly the same way.
So if his word is good enough for crash retrievals and recovered bodies, it's good enough for seven foot scaly gorillas in a Tic Tac. And if it isn't good enough for the scaly gorillas, it was never good enough for the rest of it.
You don't get to keep only the half that flatters the narrative.
David Grusch will be a leading contender in the 2027 Fraudstar Awards. We wish all our nominees the best of luck. Be sure to tune in and vote for your favorite frauds, fanatics, and grifters this March!
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