@PabloMakes Huge L. I would like you to explain the point number 1. How are you automating this?
'Annoys other players'. Like who? Did we do a survey on what ability/warframe players actually find annoying to play with? Or we listened to a random BOZO about what's bad and acting on this?
@Verity_Skye@PabloMakes@Midknight_86 A grown man asking for nerfs in Warframe because another player is killing AI enemies too effectively will never stop being funny to me. We're one step away from demanding competitive integrity for Grineer.
@Verity_Skye@PabloMakes@Midknight_86 If seeing another player erase a room bothers you this much, I genuinely don't know how you've survived Warframe for this long. If we consider your ideas into this game, it'd die like the Destiny 2.
@Verity_Skye@PabloMakes@Midknight_86 Game sells the fantasy of becoming OP space god. I've got like 10 builds that are more OP than Hildryn. I'm not worried about the nerf, what I'm triggered is about the logic behind the discussion of nerf. Like for a couple of dumb people, we're even having this discussion.
@Verity_Skye@PabloMakes@Midknight_86 Funniest part of this discussion is watching someone load into a power fantast horde shooter & then get upset that another player is too good at killing hordes. You're talking about"Disruptive gameplay" like we're discussing a ranked PVP ladder of CS2 or League.
@Verity_Skye@PabloMakes@Midknight_86 Notice how only the original guy and U are complaining about it in the entire thread and rest saying it's a stupid idea. After all the explanation U still can't see it. You're entitled to your opinion. You're not entitled to have UR opinion treated as objective balance data.
@Verity_Skye@PabloMakes@Midknight_86 So after all this we've arrive at: Source: "Trust me bro, I played it" Evidence:"I don't like it". Conclusion: "It should be nerfed" I already mentioned the numbers are from Warframe community stats 2025. Or u don't even know what that is?
@Verity_Skye@PabloMakes@Midknight_86 I could say the same, that Cyte o9 are killing enemies from 80m away that I don't get to kill enemies with my Hildryn. At this point, your argument isn't 'this build is broken', it's "I don't like this build". Which is fine. Just don't confuse personal preference with balance.
@Verity_Skye@PabloMakes@Midknight_86 At this point u are blabbering nonsense and making stuff up. If your teammates running away from Hildryn just to find enemies to shoot, it sounds like U were still capable of playing the game. U just didn't like where the enemies were dying. That's a preference issue,not balance.
@Verity_Skye@PabloMakes@Midknight_86 Asking for a source then your evidence is literally, "I had a few missions where.." That's not a source. That's anecdote. Check Warframe community stats if u want numbers. As per your argument,we went from"Hyldrin is uniquely disruptive" to you reciting anecdote & personal bias
@Verity_Skye@PabloMakes@Midknight_86 That doesn't sound like balance. It sounds like personal preference being treated as a universal problem. Balancing around personal dislikes is a pretty dangerous precedent.
@Verity_Skye@PabloMakes@Midknight_86 So, We're talking about a niche build only a played by maybe 1.5% of players, with another .01% of players asking for it to be nerfed because they don't enjoy seeing it and that justifies punishing all the players who enjoy this build or just don't care.
@Verity_Skye@PabloMakes@Midknight_86 You proved my point. It's not about power. It's the specific build that you personally dislike. Because 30 other frames can do the same if u build it right.
@Verity_Skye@PabloMakes@Midknight_86 Got it. Saryn deletes the map?Gara vaporizing tile?Cyte O9 chain nuking rooms through walls with double the range.Octavia playing with 1 hand.Wukong slams with Magistar.Sevagoth deletes level cap. Fine.Hildryn does it, suddenly we discussing sanctity of team interaction. Standard
@Verity_Skye@PabloMakes@Midknight_86 The funny part is Hildryn + Balefire actually takes a decent amount of investment to get rolling, unlike a lot of the nuke build you might be comparing it to. Apprently, the problem isn't power, it's this particular build. Philosophy"Anything I don't enjoy using should be nerfed
@Verity_Skye@PabloMakes@Midknight_86 So your argument is that a build is bad because it lets you play casually in a PvE game? Interesting. Are we nerfing Gara,Cyte,Octavia,Saryn and every other frame that can delete a map? It sounds less like balance adjustment and more like"people having fun the wrong way"
@PabloMakes@Midknight_86 How do you even go afk with Hildryn build? Apart from investing more than any other frames to nuke enemies, you gotta have a very specific build and constantly spam abilities to maintain your shield, else the whole build flops. I'm starting to believe we've never played Hyldrin.