@xiaomum1@Nain_Portekoi Fair point. America is expensive as hell too. Rent, healthcare, childcare—we're struggling with all of it. I'm not pretending Americans have it easy. What matters is how much ordinary people can actually afford and whether they have a safety net when things go wrong.
@xiaomum1@Nain_Portekoi China has a massive economy, but that doesn't mean most people are financially comfortable. We have inequality in America too, but GDP alone tells us very little about how ordinary people live. I'd rather look at wages, housing costs, and what people can actually afford.
@xiaomum1@Nain_Portekoi Helping poor families is a good thing, and China deserves credit for that. But social welfare doesn't justify censorship. Parents can protect their kids with content filters. Why should the government decide what every adult can read or watch?
@xiaomum1@Nain_Portekoi The protests lasted seven weeks, not six months. Violence by some individuals doesn't justify shooting unarmed civilians. Even if police couldn't handle the situation, why send in the army? And you still haven't answered: should peaceful political dissent be allowed?
@xiaomum1@Nain_Portekoi And protecting kids from porn doesn't require censoring news and political speech for adults. Why should the government decide what everyone gets to read?
@xiaomum1@Nain_Portekoi The military crackdown in 1989 is well documented. But where's the evidence that students planned to seize power? Their demands centered on fighting corruption, press freedom, and political reform. Calling for officials to resign isn't the same as staging a coup.
@xiaomum1@Nain_Portekoi Only students? Workers formed independent unions and joined the 1989 protests too. Their demands included fighting corruption and press freedom, not just grabbing power. And where's your evidence of CIA agents? Disagreeing with the CCP doesn't make someone a foreign operative.
@xiaomum1@Nain_Portekoi Let me ask you this: If the 1989 protesters had remained completely peaceful—no attacks, no arson, no weapons—would you support their right to demand political reform and freedom of speech? Or would you still justify sending in the army?
@xiaomum1@Nain_Portekoi We have plenty of trolls and idiots on the American internet too. 😂 But blocking information isn't the same as protecting people. Shouldn't adults be allowed to decide what to read and who to believe, instead of having the government decide for them?
@xiaomum1@Nain_Portekoi Our government has spent decades meddling abroad, and the damage is real. But I get why many people worry about Beijing too: censorship, one-party rule, pressure on neighboring countries, and economic leverage. Criticizing Washington doesn't mean giving Beijing a free pass.
@xiaomum1@Nain_Portekoi Let's be real, Washington has spent decades bombing countries, backing dictators, and leaving chaos behind, all while lecturing the world about freedom and democracy. Maybe our government should stop trying to fix the world and start fixing the mess at home. 😂
@xiaomum1@Nain_Portekoi You're confusing changing the captain with sinking the ship. Nobody said we should destroy the ship. If the captain does a good job, people can keep him. But helping build the ship doesn't give him or his party permanent ownership of it.
@xiaomum1@Nain_Portekoi Here's a question: If China's economy declined for ten years, unemployment kept rising, and people lost faith in the CCP, would you still support its rule? If not, how could ordinary Chinese citizens peacefully remove it from power?
@xiaomum1@Nain_Portekoi Here's what I'm curious about. If Chinese people become unhappy with the CCP, how are they supposed to change the government peacefully? If they can't vote the ruling party out or form an opposition party, what options do they actually have besides revolution?
@xiaomum1@Nain_Portekoi Sure, improving people's lives matters, and the US made huge mistakes in Afghanistan. But 70 years in power doesn't prove free consent. And jobs in Xinjiang don't answer concerns about detention or forced labor. Economic growth and political repression can coexist.
@xiaomum1@Nain_Portekoi You say the people have already chosen, but you reject letting them vote. How do you know what they want if they can't freely choose? And calling peaceful elections "weak" while advocating force doesn't sound like confidence in the people.
@xiaomum1@Nain_Portekoi You sound a lot like American elites who think ordinary people are too stupid to make their own choices. Different ideology, same elitism: "We know what's best for you." If the people really support the CCP, why not let them choose for themselves?