@LindaHConley13@jessicarivera_4@HoldenCCole Yeah they amounted to nothing… only one of the bigger sects of Christians of our modern day, the baptists. Point being it wasn’t a random “rebellion against the only church” in the 1500s that led to the core beliefs of “Protestants”. So yes, history is history indeed.
@LindaHConley13@jessicarivera_4@HoldenCCole Please look up the Donatists, Paulicians, and Waldensians. The Catholic Church claiming that every Christian before the Protestant Reformation was Catholic is just a lie to gain a false sense of authority.
@Buzzsaws1990@DEGOPer@ScottRoberts@Pontifex I believe that Mary was a virgin until she birthed Jesus because scripture says it. I believe there is no scriptural evidence supporting that she stayed a virgin afterwards (please provide if so). Therefore, I do not believe in the perpetual virginity.
@Buzzsaws1990@DEGOPer@ScottRoberts@Pontifex Sir the burden of proof in scripture is unfortunately on you. I’ve stated my opinions and scripture to back it up. Catholic Mariology is scripture stretched to fit a doctrine that is historically manmade. I hope you have a good evening! https://t.co/lPnZATKn4d
@Buzzsaws1990@DEGOPer@ScottRoberts@Pontifex “For a limited time” not perpetually, if you’re going there.
Again, I’m not here to argue, but there’s no point to perpetual virginity. There is no scripture indicating Mary was sinless, but sex within the bounds of marriage is still holy. Paul says the bed is undefiled.
@Buzzsaws1990@DEGOPer@ScottRoberts@Pontifex Right. Perfectly fine to assume the passage could be interpreted either way. However, it is very dangerous territory to take things that are not said and make doctrines out of them. Which is the point I was making with my posts. Even if Mary was a “perpetual virgin”, Paul 1/
@Buzzsaws1990@DEGOPer@ScottRoberts@Pontifex I’m not here to argue or banter with anyone. I believe the Bible’s focus is on Jesus alone, and apparently you believe otherwise which is your right. If you’d like, please state scripture to support your claims, but there’s no point in arguing our perspectives that won’t change.
@Buzzsaws1990@DEGOPer@ScottRoberts@Pontifex I feel like you’re attempting to lead me to a place where I say Matthew wasn’t referring to Joseph knowing Mary after she had Jesus, which would then “prove” perpetual virginity (which it does not regardless of your interpretation). Are there any passages stating she was?
@Buzzsaws1990@DEGOPer@ScottRoberts@Pontifex The Bible revolves around Jesus. There would be no purpose in a prophecy about Jesus as the Messiah mentioning that Mary had multiple children. It is not implying that He was her only child.
@Buzzsaws1990@DEGOPer@ScottRoberts@Pontifex Brother what is the passage saying? Joseph didn’t know Mary until she had Jesus. Know is referring to consummating the marriage. These passages refer to His siblings.
Mark 6:3
Matt. 13:55–56
Matt. 12:46–47
Mark 3:31–32
Luke 8:19–20
Jn 2:12
Jn 7:3–5
Acts 1:14
Gal. 1:19
@erinmariegavin@DEGOPer@ScottRoberts@Pontifex Encouraged by what?
He saith to THE disciple (singular): Behold THY mother. And from that hour, THE disciple (singular) took her to HIS own.
No indication in any form or fashion in that verse or anywhere else in the Bible that she is every disciple’s mother from then on.
@DEGOPer@ScottRoberts@Pontifex As the mother of Jesus as she lived a pure life and was chosen to do so, just understood that her being chosen was grace from God and not to be elevated to any kind of spiritual authority.
@DEGOPer@ScottRoberts@Pontifex I say all this not to be contradictory, but just to clear up that the Bible constantly affirms Jesus and Jesus alone. Mary was a sinner and had to be redeemed, and Jesus alone is our way to God through prayer - 1 Timothy 2:5. Happy to explain further! Mary is to be honored, 6/