Every civilization falls the moment it decides it knows better than human nature:
“We do not want a church that will move with the world. We want a church that will move the world. The great marches of civilization have not come from the clever, the adaptable, or the fashionable. They have come from men who stood still while the rest of the world rushed past them, and who held fast to certain moral truths as to a rock. Progress itself depends upon the retention of permanent things. A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.”
— G. K. Chesterton
@mtaibbi Why not? The freedom of religion argument only stands for religion, obviously. Islam and Sharia are inseparable, meaning a true religion does have an inbuilt political system to compete with the host nations political system. Islam is an expansionist ideology. BAN IT!
Christianity is not a pacifist religion.
People love to twist “turn the other cheek” as if Christ was telling His followers to be weak, timid and helpless in the face of evil. He wasn't. Christ was teaching self-control, not cowardice. It was about personal humility, not surrendering your home, your people or your faith to wickedness.
Christianity has never been pacifist. The Old Testament is filled with men of God who fought for righteousness: Joshua, David, Gideon and the Maccabees. The New Testament does not erase that reality. When Paul wrote that rulers “bear not the sword in vain,” he made it clear that force, rightly used, is ordained by God to punish evil and protect the innocent.
The great Church Fathers understood this. Augustine and Aquinas both taught that a just war is not sinful. A Christian can, and sometimes must, fight when justice and the innocent are under attack. That is not bloodlust. It is duty.
Loving your enemy does not mean surrendering to him. It means refusing to hate him even as you stop him. There is a difference between mercy and moral suicide.
Christ Himself was meek before His Father, but never before evil. He rebuked hypocrites, overturned the tables and spoke truth without compromise. The modern idea that Christians should sit quietly and let wickedness prevail is completely foreign to Scripture.
In Revelation, Christ returns not as a pacifist but as a conquering King. His robe is dipped in blood and He rides forth with the armies of heaven. That is not a soft gospel. It is judgment and victory.
Today, many have confused meekness with weakness. Too many churches preach surrender in the name of peace. But peace without righteousness is corruption. Evil does not stop because you smile at it. It stops when men of faith stand firm.
Christianity calls for courage, discipline and the defence of truth. It calls men to be warriors of light, not cowards hiding behind a false peace.
Christians are not called to live quietly beneath the boot of wickedness. We are called to resist evil, stand for what is right and remain faithful to Christ, the Lamb who will return as the Lion. 🏴
@MasterMaliq Yes! We want you to adapt to our culture when moving to our countries, or you should leave. Christians aren’t even allowed to practice their faith publicly in the majority of Muslim countries, what right do Muslims then have to come into Western nations and start pushing Islam?
In Zechariah 12:10 Yahweh Himself declares:
“They will look on Me whom they have pierced…”
Pause and let that sink in.
When was Yahweh ever pierced?
This is one of the most powerful prophecies in the OT written hundreds of years before the cross.
Yahweh speaking in the first person, saying He would be pierced by His own people and then mourned for.
The only fulfillment in history of such an event is Jesus of Nazareth on the cross.
Same God.
Same pierced hands and side.
Same promise of redemption.
The OT doesnt just hint at the Messiah….it reveals the shocking truth that the Son of God himself would enter our suffering and be pierced for our transgressions.
Who else but Jesus fulfilled this? Nothing in history comes close. Jesus is Yahweh the Son…..who came in the flesh and dwelt among us.
@ronaldlirumo@USAmbRSA So Ronald, you’re happy to side with a nation that shot down 30 000 + of it’s own citizens for protesting? (Iran) You’re happy siding with a nation where you can be locked up fo so much as criticising the government? (China)? These are not natural allies of a democracy.
We should all be studying history. So that our children don’t have to face the consequences of our own ignorance.
Islam brings death and destruction everywhere it goes, always has, and always will.
This is Islamic propaganda by two uneducated barbarians who are deliberately trying to manipulate history. I will explain to you, in a long and historically accurate post, exactly how Muslim Turks treated Christians.
In the 1.300 years of Muslim-Arab slave trade, approximately a million Greek Christians were sold as slaves. I am Greek, so I will write you about how Islam and Muslim Turks treated Greek Christians.
On March 30, 1822, the Chios Massacre took place. The Muslim Turks slaughtered 42,000 Greek Christians: women, men & children. Additionally, 52,000 were sold as slaves in the markets of Smyrna & Constantinople.
On September 1, 1821, Samothrace was devastated by the Ottomans through a general massacre led by the Turkish Kara Ali. Approximately 10,000 men & boys were slaughtered. Women & children were sold in the markets of Constantinople & Smyrna (Holocaust of Samothrace).
On June 4, 1821, the Turks carried out a massacre against the Greeks of Kydonies in Asia Minor (modern-day Ayvalık). They did pogroms at shops and homes, looting them, while seizing women and children to sell as slaves. Simultaneously, they conducted a general massacre of the population, and the town was set ablaze and completely destroyed.
In Crete muslims carried chains with them to tie up Greek Christian women so they could take them away. They were enslaving and converting the Greek Christians of Crete for centuries.
For 300 years (1380-1680) the muslim Turks were stealing kids from their mothers. This was the most brutal thing humanity ever witnessed. They were waiting for women to birth, raise their kids, and then at the age of 8 were collecting the them. The devşirme known as "collection of children" or "blood tax" or in Greek as "paidomazoma". The devshirme was the greatest wound inflicted on Hellenism during the period of Turkish rule. The children who were seized were considered definitively lost. In Epirus, in fact, on the first Sunday after the abduction, their parents would go to church dressed in black, where a funeral service was chanted. In this service, the names of the children were read aloud as if they were dead. Once taken, boys were circumcised, renamed with Muslim names, and forbidden from contact with their families. They were raised as Muslims, effectively erasing their Greek cultural and religious identity to foster loyalty to the sultan.
After the Ottoman conquest of Crete (1669), local officials and governors began to oppress the Christian population in every way: killing, abducting and abusing women, demanding money, and preventing the performance of the subjects' religious duties.
We Greeks, called the Muslim Turks, "The grand masters of torture." In 1821, in Patras, they captured a father and son and, after impaling them, lit a fire and forced the other captives to roast them like lambs. Ali Pasha at that point was more inventive: When he impaled Christians, he forced their relatives to turn the spit, threatening that otherwise he would impale them too.
Immediately after the hanging of Patriarch Gregory V in Constantinople, the Turks hanged three metropolitans at various points in the city. However, one of them, the very elderly Metropolitan of Nicomedia, breathed his last before reaching the place of execution. Such, however, was the Turks' mania for revenge that they punished even the dead man by hanging his corpse.
Just 65 years after the Fall of Constantinople (1453), Sultan Selim I Yavuz, grandson of Mehmed the Conqueror and father of Suleiman, decided to definitively abolish the Patriarchate of Constantinople during the patriarchate of Theoleptos I, and to slaughter all the subjugated Christians (rayah) of the empire who refused to convert to Mohammedanism. Just 65 years after the Fall of Constantinople, the Greeks of Thrace were collectively placed before the forced dilemma of either converting or being wiped off the face of the earth, that is, to suffer ethnic cleansing or genocide, as we would say today. Between those two barbaric options, the Greeks of Thrace (the ancestors of today’s Muslim Greeks of Thrace) chose ethnic cleansing at their own expense; that is, they chose to convert in order to survive as an ancient indigenous people, in the hope that at some point in the future their descendants would regain their national self-awareness and their religious independence, and would then voluntarily return to the bosom of the Greek Nation and of Greek Orthodoxy.
When the Greek Bishop Dionysios the Philosopher of Larissa organized a revolt against the Muslim Turks in 1611, which ended in failure, the Turks flayed him alive, stuffed his skin with straw, and paraded it from city to city. Three days later, the Turks also discovered -the Greek rebels- Deli Giorgos and Lambros. They burned Lambros alive, while they crucified Giorgos and, instead of a crown of thorns on his head, they drilled holes into which they placed feathers. Dionysios’s skin, together with the heads of 85 Greek Christian rebels, was sent to Constantinople, where it was thrown into the Sultan’s stables.
After the failure of Daskalogiannis’s uprising in Sfakia (Crete, 1770), the Turks captured him and flayed him alive, cut him in pieces and throw them in the fire and the dogs.
The Muslim Pasha of Thessaloniki, Abdul Abud, who had set as his goal the extermination of the Greeks, burned 120 villages and wiped out their inhabitants to the last one.
5.000 Greeks were massacred in Naousa, the rest were sold in slave markets, and the entire city was reduced to ashes.
The most common torture inflicted by the Muslims during the Ottoman period was whipping. The usual victims were the Christians. It was the introductory torment in every other torture, so common in the persecutions of Christians that the phrase became proverbial: "I will whip you until you change your faith."
The Janissaries faced no restraint in their behavior toward the Christians. They would even enter churches and desecrate them. And if they discovered a beautiful Greek girl, they would seize her from her parents in order to satisfy their lewd desires. For this reason, anyone who had a pretty daughter was forced to keep her locked inside the house, while most Greek women who lived in towns would wear a burqa when they went out, just like Muslim women.
The Janissaries also exterminate Christians without any reason, simply because they were Christians. Sometimes they executed them in cold blood in the middle of the road, just to test the accuracy of their weapons; other times to watch them writhe in their own blood; sometimes to make the abduction of a bride, right after her wedding, more dramatic; other times simply because the Christians were manly-looking, relatively well-dressed, or on horseback. In the latter case, the rayah would hurry to dismount upon seeing a Janissary, but the latter would draw his pistol and say: “Why did you dismount, you infidel dog? So you could make me ride instead?” And the rayah, Greek Christian, would fall dead.
During the Ottoman period, Muslims enjoyed performing all kinds of mutilations. Ears, noses, lips, tongues, breasts, and genitals were primarily cut off. Not just those, though. Let's recall here the newly-revealed Saint Raphael of Mytilene, who was hanged from a tree and had his lower jaw cut off, while the twelve-year-old martyr Irene was roasted in a barrel on the Tuesday of Easter in the year 1463, ten years after the fall of Constantinople.
Many times Christian captives were placed in front of cannons that were fired, turning them into human shreds of flesh. In other cases, they were tied to galleys that sailed in opposite directions and were torn apart. Dismemberment of victims also occurred with horses.
In Chios Massacre young girls were raped publicly in the streets, and newlyweds in front of their husbands, who were then slaughtered. Others were raped in front of their parents, after which the men's genitals were cut off. Women over 40 were set on fire and left to burn alive. Pregnant women had their bellies ripped open and their fetuses pulled out, while small children were thrown forcefully against rocks. The frenzy of the Muslims was unprecedented.
In 1822, Muslims also captured the wives of Zafeirakis and Gatsos. The wife of Zafeirakis was built into the wall up to the neck in the church of Hagia Sophia in Thessaloniki. Maria Karatasou, daughter of a priest refused to change faith, and for this Ebub Lubut enclosed her in a sack with deadly snakes, where she martyred.
Pouqueville describes in the darkest colors to the civilized world the dramatic scenes he saw with his own eyes there: “Many women naked were put up to the neck in sacks with cats, snakes, and mice…”.
The Greek Christian Woman, during the years when Greece was enslaved to the Muslim Turks, in order to avoid -as much as she could- the abhorrent dishonor from the barbaric Muslims, would destroy the youthful beauty of her face, or create a family from the age of fourteen, believing that she would not give birth to slaves.
On September 1955 in Constantinople 4,348 Greek businesses, 110 hotels, 27 pharmacies, 23 schools, and 73 churches were damaged or destroyed. The exodus of Greeks from Turkey, reduced the community of over 150.000 (who have already left from the Fall), to fewer than 2.000 today.
Muslims commited GENOCIDES and Islamized the Anatolia, Antioch and Seleucia.
From the Hellenism of the East (Thrace, Asia Minor, Pontus), around a million people were exterminated (1914-1924). In the Pontus region alone, 353,000 people were slaughtered. Because they stole our lands. Smyrna, Aydin, Kydonies, Prousa, Nicaea (Asia Minor region), Trebizond, Kerasounta, Samsounta, Oinoe, Paphra, Ordou, Amaseia (Pontus), provinces of Derkon, Metron, Herakleia, Myriophytou, Kallipoleos, Ainos, Tyrolois, Saranta Ekklision, Adrianople (Eastern Thrace).
On December 18, 1803, at Zalongo in Greece, a group of Greek Souliote women jumped from the cliffs, holding their children. They chose death over falling into the hands of Muslims, where they would face rape, abuse, and enslavement.
These are only some of the most recent and important events in Greek history. Of course there are thousands of books and primary sources about the Ottoman period and what happened to Christians in Anatolian Greeks and other Christian countries.
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I am Homer Pavlos. A Greek, descendant of those who fought Islam and knows the history of his homeland.
"If your marriage is like this, your perfection will rival the holiest of monks."
St John Chrysostom's advice to husbands:
+ Never speak to your wife in a mundane way but with compliments, with respect and with much love.
+ Tell her that you love her more than your own life, because this present life is nothing, and that your only hope is that the two of you pass through this life in such a way that in the world to come, you will be united in perfect love.
+ Say to her, 'Our time here is brief and fleeting, but if we are pleasing to God, we can exchange this life for the Kingdom to come. Then we will be perfectly one both with Christ and with each other, and our pleasure will know no bounds. I value your love above all things, and nothing would be so bitter or painful to me as our being at odds with each other. Even if I lose everything, any affliction is tolerable if you will be true to me.'
+ Show her that you value her company, and prefer being at home to being out at the marketplace
+ Esteem her in the presence of your friends and children
+ Praise and show admiration for her good acts; and if she ever does anything foolish, advise her patiently.
+ Pray together at home and go to Church; when you come back home, let each ask the other the meaning of the readings and the prayers.
If your marriage is like this, your perfection will rival the holiest of monks.
@sneako Because unlike the Koran, neither the Torah, nor the Bible encourage the rape and murder of non adherents to their faiths. It’s not rocket science.
Men need to remember to take care of themselves. Drink water, get fresh air and lift weights. Don’t get too depressed. Stop watching news slop and avoid rage baiting algorithms. Lose belly fat that causes inflammation and read books that disciplines attention span. Stay positive and improve on something every day. Chin towards God.
Let’s compare poor Christian nations with poor Islamic ones.
The Philippines: I was there last year. Majority Christian, about 91%, financially poor. But walk the streets and it's joy and music and hospitality. Cities filled with dancing and laughter. You might get offered a meal and a karaoke mic in the same hour.
Now compare that with poor Islamic countries like Somalia, Yemen, or Afghanistan.
What is the fruit? Fear. Depression. Violence. Kids holding AKs. Women hidden. Joy that feels restricted and illegal. Questioning faith is dangerous. Conversion can be deadly. Apostasy penalties exist.
And our Bible says the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control. (Galatians 5:22-23)
Show me that fruit of Islam. Show me gentleness in Sharia law. Show me peace in jihad.
You can’t—because the root determines the fruit. So don’t judge by claims. Don’t judge by numbers. Judge by the fruit you actually see. And if you're honest, you can see which one leads to freedom.
We must never forget that every single person is made in the image and likeness of God, and have an inherent dignity.
However, moving to Western countries is not a human right, it is a privilege, and that privilege comes with certain conditions.
@Afri_core I believe a country should always prioritise it’s own citizens first. However, have any South Africans stopped and asked themselves why foreigners might be getting the work when they’re not? Could it have something to do with attitude and employability perhaps?