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Vanilla Ice had the No. 1 album in America, 7 million copies sold. Then he opened his hotel room door and found Suge Knight inside with five men. All armed. All smiling.

In the video below, he tells the story himself.

He had two bodyguards with him. The men said they were huge fans. They wanted pictures for their daughters. He posed. Everything was cool, he says.

Then Suge asked to talk to him on the balcony. Alone.

His bodyguard stood up. Vanilla says one of the men slapped him so hard he cried, and took his gun.

Thirty minutes later, they brought in Chocolate, the man who claimed he helped write the song. Vanilla says his eye was black and his lip was swollen.

"Ice Ice Baby" was the first rap song ever to top the Billboard Hot 100. Everyone wanted a piece of it.

Forget the famous version where Suge dangled him over the railing by his ankles. Vanilla says that never happened.

What Suge actually told him out on that balcony is the part he says everyone gets wrong.

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@Wealthoran Both can be true: Jay outgrew the deal, and Dame got left behind by his best friend. Business and loyalty rarely survive the same success.

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@Duskrave Ha, in hip-hop the legend sells better than the court record.

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Before Smack That, Akon says he was making $150,000 a week stealing cars in Atlanta. The trick wasn't a gun. It was something every fancy restaurant has out front.

In the video below, he tells the story himself.

Mid-1990s. The Olympics were coming to Atlanta, and he says nobody there knew the tricks he brought from Jersey.

He started the old way: a gun, a driver, "give me the keys." He says his heart couldn't take it. After three or four, he found the owner's address in the glove box and drove the last car back. Keys inside.

Then one night he handed his own car to a valet and watched the guy open a small box behind the stand.

He says each car sold for $20,000 to $25,000. Three chop shops. Recording studios to wash the money.

In 2008, The Smoking Gun reported that court records backed up almost none of it. Akon says it happened.

What was inside that box is how, he says, the whole operation started.

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@Wealthoran Probably somewhere in between. Most of these stories start true and get bigger every time they’re told.

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@justlunacy That’s what makes it work. You watch the whole thing trying to decide if you believe him.

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@keysersoze13_13 30 years later, Ice is the one still telling the story. That says a lot.

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Vanilla Ice had the No. 1 album in America, 7 million copies sold. Then he opened his hotel room door and found Suge Knight inside with five men. All armed. All smiling.

In the video below, he tells the story himself.

He had two bodyguards with him. The men said they were huge fans. They wanted pictures for their daughters. He posed. Everything was cool, he says.

Then Suge asked to talk to him on the balcony. Alone.

His bodyguard stood up. Vanilla says one of the men slapped him so hard he cried, and took his gun.

Thirty minutes later, they brought in Chocolate, the man who claimed he helped write the song. Vanilla says his eye was black and his lip was swollen.

"Ice Ice Baby" was the first rap song ever to top the Billboard Hot 100. Everyone wanted a piece of it.

Forget the famous version where Suge dangled him over the railing by his ankles. Vanilla says that never happened.

What Suge actually told him out on that balcony is the part he says everyone gets wrong.

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@NealTomasin Ha, Marsellus Wallace would’ve handled that balcony very differently.

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@wizard_mis21552 Fair question. Probably the kind who knew exactly who Suge was.

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@Duskrave $30,000 after taxes for No Country for Old Men. How many great actors quit right before their check comes in?

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@0bjectiv3P0V If anyone from that era has stories nobody’s heard, it’s him.

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@SlipvonFreud That’s the thing with stories like this. Only the guys on that balcony know for sure.

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@justlunacy $75 million in sales and $50,000 each. Would you have signed that at 19

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@Winop658 Most of that era never saw a courtroom. Suge did, just not for this.

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@SlipvonFreud That rumor followed him for 30 years. His own version is different, and honestly scarier.

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@St_Louisra Exactly. The real version is quieter and somehow scarier. It’s all in what was said on that balcony.

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@xxxBongwater He had armed security too. That’s what made the story so wild.

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@0bjectiv3P0V 30 years of interviews and he still hasn’t told all of it. Probably on purpose.

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@ShreadStick It gets close. Watch how he describes the moment on the balcony.

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@AGariaparra ”All smiling” was the detail that stuck with me too. The scariest people in business usually are.

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@jebrennt He never says who they were. Just that they were nicely dressed and very calm. That’s what made it scary.