you mean logic and common sense comes in pairs. pinned it because I'm proud to oppose a racist, anti-white ideology. just like I oppose bullying white people to open their borders to prove allyship.
@Grnmobusiness@PoliticalKiwi Nigga who are you talking about? I vote democrat and am a liberal. You act like you're talking to a communist or something. I think YOU are just probably racist LOL
@SitemanReturns@Gabe_1y@hutchinson OCP was put into place because of HIGH birth rates, and the reason given was socioeconomic.
Even though birthrates are currently LOW across China, they are still forcefully sterilizing a specific ethnic minority (Uyghurs). Motivation necessarily must be different than the OCP.
@SitemanReturns@Gabe_1y@hutchinson Policies currently applied to Xinjiang that disproportionately target Uyghurs are not the same policies they applied to the rest of the country.
Also, of course the motive is different, since birth rates are LOW, not HIGH, which is why the OCP was enacted in the first place.
@SitemanReturns@Gabe_1y@hutchinson This is disingenuous though, because the "intent" aspect of what constitutes genocide is different between those two. The given reason for the OCP for the Han (socioeconomic) is different than for the Uyghurs. Humans rights violations absolutely occurred though with the OCP
@Gabe_1y@hutchinson@SitemanReturns "In part" applies to this. If I found a specific area in a country with an ethnic group (not the only area), and I imposed forceful measures explicitly meant to prevent births so that the population doesn't rise above a certain number, genocide can be adequately argued.
@Gabe_1y@hutchinson@SitemanReturns If "imposing measures intended to prevent births in the group" is one of the five actions that constitute a genocide, then yes, sterilization can be genocide on its own. Maybe it's the case that most of the time, genocides are not done via sterilization, but that's not relevant.
@Gabe_1y@hutchinson@SitemanReturns I asked you if sterilization counts as genocide because you made the claim that "actual genocide" is when people in the group are killed, and then you responded by specifically talking about sterilization of uyghurs.
Did you change your mind then?
@sren1ty_ google doc about 2 people we will prob never hear about again who are both bad people with no principles or morals but the one the doc is being made about is worse. awesome shit happening on my TL today.