@0tter89@Behindbarzbelts Sadly that's the behind barz experience. I've got 3 or 4 pieces I bought just laying around because trying to find the right combo for yourself is expensive sadly without living close enough to their building or doing one of their trial stations. I do recommend it when you're rdy
As much as I love the idea of being a kidnap victim this is legitimately a real skill and good to have if you do EVER find yourself ziptied against your will (and it's a legitimate non consent situation). I have broken out of zip ties before. Even police ones. These were not cut.