@deckrecent@RaymondMCandela@kayjii@EandnotY U can hide clones behind cover and angles he has to hard peak I'm not even CONSIDERING enemy having starlord and 1 clipping the poor fuck on repeat since yk 50 clip size in a gambit game
@RaymondMCandela@kayjii@EandnotY At best u kill a few clones he's still going to get lamp value and won't die to moonknight alone your downside is shit ult and feeding the gambit and Loki and once they build ult it's gg from there each one will pop an ult back to back
@RaymondMCandela@kayjii@EandnotY and in return u have a piss mk that has to play into a starlord/pheonix cant contest any angles and a shitty ultimate its just too many downsides
@RaymondMCandela@kayjii@EandnotY thats also the point pre fight, sure he can shoot 1-2 clones but mid fight with tanks walking u simply can not he has 2 clones plus 1 from his invisibility one plus he is charging another one when he places 1 effectively having 3-4 thats why it simply doesnt work
@RaymondMCandela@kayjii@EandnotY but ur not getting 2 things, A loki having good clone placement and B, its not 1-2 ults with the combo every time gambit ults loki can get ult faster, loki still has lamps to charge ult with and can simply hold clones until the fight initiates he also had more clones mid fight
@nuggetsdy109391@mYiSmiile@kayjii@EandnotY u cant argue abt all ranks bcz to argue X counters Y u need to account for X and Y playing optimally. no shit if X plays better than Y, X wins rogue does 10x with a gambit than peni will ever do in an optimal game, stats dont mean shit in a good lobby peni cant match tempo or dmg
@nuggetsdy109391@mYiSmiile@kayjii@EandnotY i mean i have credentials to back it up have u seen peni ran is single map in any ignite match ever, with gambit rogue being played multiple times peni is a cheese character at best u can stay ignorant thats completely fine by me :grin:
@RaymondMCandela@kayjii@EandnotY what u people do not put into account is the game revolves around neutral and ult fights, gambit loki each give 20% ult generation every time they ult u will be perma behind in ult eco, every 1-2 fights theres a gambit ult popped u can not "counter" it doesnt exist
@nuggetsdy109391@mYiSmiile@kayjii@EandnotY what ur not understanding is the game isnt a 1v1 to begin with but conditions being met if dd can hit a no cds gambit yea he dies if gambit has cds/cards hes NEVER dying
@nuggetsdy109391@mYiSmiile@kayjii@EandnotY peni is an F tier cheese character that i havent seen picked in any human lobby for months besides otps hard forcing him champ is simply terrible ESPECIALLY in a gambit game imagine enemy pops rogue gambit ult and i have a fuckass peni ult good one
@nuggetsdy109391@mYiSmiile@kayjii@EandnotY u are not chasing a gambit with double right click dash its just not happening he can travel half a map distance so dd solo isnt doing anything either ur hitting him with 4+ or ur simply not killing him unless he's droid spamming abilities for 0
@nuggetsdy109391@mYiSmiile@kayjii@EandnotY peni is the worst tank in the game and isnt doing shit to rogue i promise u if u go mk and bucky u just piss feed the gambit ult on repeat and lose every gambit ult bcz u cant match it fast enough mk ult is shit into gambit ult
@nuggetsdy109391@mYiSmiile@kayjii@EandnotY your only option is running a full 6 man dive which is very good but wont be coordinated enough for it to be good in ranked so its not possible
@nuggetsdy109391@mYiSmiile@kayjii@EandnotY dd isnt doing shit to gambit/dive generally doesnt do much into gambit for 2 reasons/ gambit himself participates in dives with his team and has 2 dashes and 2 ways to self heal and duel/ as well as a way to just 1 bullet squishies if he plays it well