@MUFC__Prince please explain the challenge that he challenged the board. They had a meeting, from reports I've seen they had quite a talk but amorim became defensive when the issue of his 3-4-3 came up. He was simply unwilling to change from the onset.
They didnāt sack him because he failed.
They sacked him because he asked for more.
He wanted a midfielder.
He challenged the people above him.
He tried to fix the foundation.
And thatās where it ended.
After all the work he had already done:
Cleared the deadwood.
Raised the standard.
Started building a real system.
For the first time in a whileā¦
you could actually SEE where this was going.
But this club doesnāt do patience.
It doesnāt do long-term thinking.
It panics.
Quick fixes. Short-term decisions. Same cycle.
Some fans still donāt understand what a rebuild looks like.
You donāt judge progress halfway through it.
Now weāve reset everything again.
And weāll act surprised when nothing changes.
@NoushardMUFC Tonali is good.. calm, composed, technical
Fernandes very young, has a high ceiling, technical, great stamina at his age.
It falls on the board and Carrick to make the right decision but I'll like both if funds are available instead of comparison
Fernandes is good. Fits the transitional midfielder that Carrick wants, 85m is much but 60-70m might just be okay.
The guy is good, technical, composed and has good stamina like bruno
But they're gonna buy him. Like I said in a region 60-70m possibly.
United have said they're building for the future, M. Fernandes has proven he has the skillset that Carrick wants.
Micheal Carrick has said he want transitional midfielders not attacking, not defensive but mids that go forward and also have no problem tracking back.
M. Fernandes is athletic, strong, fast and just Fernandes has good stamina. 85m is high
United are not paying that high
This Matheus Fernandes discussion is exposing how football fans completely lose their heads over hype.
Ā£85m?
For what exactly?
No seriously.
What are we actually paying for here?
Two Premier League seasons.
Two relegations.
And somehow people are screaming āEPL proven.ā
Proven at what?
Getting relegated?
Because if we are being brutally honest, there is not a single elite club on earth spending Ā£85m on a midfielder whose biggest achievement is āhe looked good while his team sank twice.ā
The Vitinha comparisons are honestly insulting.
Vitinha was technically superior, smarter, more polished, more complete ā and PSG got him for around Ā£35m.
Thirty five.
Not eighty five.
So please explain the math.
Not emotions.
Math.
What exactly makes Matheus Fernandes worth over double the price?
And donāt give me āpotential.ā
Football is full of graves built on potential.
United alone have donated hundreds of millions chasing āthe next big thing.ā
Sancho.
Antony.
HĆøjlund.
Every single time fans convince themselves:
āThis one is different.ā
Until reality hits.
Here is the uncomfortable truth people are avoiding:
Matheus Fernandes is not special.
Talented? Yes.
Special? No.
There is nothing he does that football has never seen before.
Nothing revolutionary.
Nothing worth £85m.
He is not prime ModriÄ.
Not Pedri.
Not Rodri.
Not even close.
He is a good young midfielder with hype inflated by social media clips and desperation in the market.
Thatās it.
And please stop pretending £85m is normal money.
Ā£85m buys world-class players.
Champions League players.
League-winning players.
Players who dominate Europe.
Not a back-to-back relegated midfielder heading into the Championship.
At some point clubs need to stop paying for fantasy and start paying for certainty.
Because if this kid is genuinely worth £85m, then football has completely lost its mind.
@NoushardMUFC Hell no.. west ham would not have accepted 50m.. the player has up to 4years on his contract, bought for 40m with a sell on clause best I think west ham take 60-65
Very smart.. is missing a sitter against arsenal now a criteria...
The player has 4-5 years left on his contract, his deal had a significant 15% sell on clause for Southampton, matched the premier league intensity. Big clubs are asking for him.
His future is very bright.
By your logic:
Roy Keane shouldn't have been signed from a relegated Forest side.
Neither should Gareth Bale after Southampton's relegation.
Moussa Sissoko from relegated Newcastle Tottenham for £30m in 2016.
Romeo Lavia from relegated Southampton to Chelsea for £58m in 2023.
James Maddison from relegated Leicester to Tottenham for £40m in 2023.
Harvey Barnes from relegated Leicester to Newcastle for £39m in 2023.
Neither should Georginio Wijnaldum for £25m after Newcastle's relegation.
Players don't suddenly become bad because the team around them failed.
Roy Keaneās fee in 1993 was a far bigger financial commitment relative to the market than Ā£85m is today.
Sir Alex Ferguson made him the most expensive players in English football despite him coming from a relegated side.
Judge Mateus Fernandes on his qualities, not on the league table.
The question is whether heās good enough to become one of the best midfielders in the Premier League over the next 5ā10 years.
If the answer is yes, then £85m may look expensive today but reasonable in hindsight.
@JustAlyxCentral I thought before he became El grande Americano he had a world title run ahead of him. Chad gable is good and deserves at least to be in the main event for good number of months or years
I don't really agree. This storyline should not be rushed into. Imagine WrestleMania 43, bloodline back to it's best. It's oba against the world(Roman and his cousins) that might just be massive.
Somethings are better off not done quickly and this is one of them.
Roman vs. Oba shouldāve happened right at Backlash.
The fan demand for that match was astronomical after Reigns and Femi traded shots on the post-Mania show.
You didn't have it in the plans and wanted to continue the Lesnar/Ruler program instead? No problem. The Beast couldāve returned at Backlash rather than some random Raw and cost Oba the win. You continue your storyline, and fans get a tease of what they actually want.
Imagine if Oba was dominating and about to put Reigns away before Brock interfered? Man... crowds would anticipate that rematch more than the second coming, I guarantee it.
Stop holding off on big matches. Strike while the iron is hot. We deserve marquee matches on every PLE. And fully fleshed out too, not cut short like what you pulled with Cody and Gunther at Clash in Italy.
@NoushardMUFC Everybody knew Cunha wanted united, prompting united to go in for him.
Sesko, united held out on Sesko until when he chose united over Newcastle, then they went in.
INEOS are signing players who want to come
Man United fans are the worst sometimes.
When we wanted Cunha, we moved properly.
We approached him. He gave us priority.
Same with Mbeumo.
Now somehow people expect Elliott Anderson to give United priority⦠when the club hasnāt even approached him.
No serious talks.
No concrete move.
Just monitoring the situation and waiting to see whether Man City get the deal done or if it collapses.
How do you expect attention from a baddie youāve never approached?
Meanwhile the baddie is at the counter flirting with a rich sugar daddy, and somehow you think sheās supposed to ignore him and come find you first.
Thatās not how this works.
If United are serious about Anderson, then move.
Approach the player.
Agree personal terms.
Fight City for the deal.
Try to pull off a scoop.
But sitting back and waiting, then getting angry because the player hasnāt āgiven us priorityā is nonsense.
Some of you overestimate yourselves way too much.
And yes, Iāll die on this hill.
This is not a dig at Elliot Anderson or the fans who want him, but I think at some point we have to move on.
Heās probably one of the best CM/DMs in the league right now, and at 22 years old, he fits the profile perfectly.
But he hasnāt given us priority. Beyond the Ā£120M price tag, heās been prioritising City. And make no mistake, INEOS did reach out to agree personal terms with him, but he doesnāt want us.
Ederson and Matheus Fernandes have given us full priority, and thatās why weāre signing them first.
This debate about pep and Alex shouldn't be.
But what I'll say is that Alex Ferguson was the standard, the benchmark and Pep Guardiola who is being measured with this standard has done exceedingly well. The end
Alex and pep are no doubt part of greatest managers in the world.