@Studman223@chiefs_outsider Ive unfortunately had this debate. It’s not worth the time because even when you are given all the data on a silver platter you will just fall back to h2h record in the playoffs, as if it’s a boxing match not a football game.
@Studman223@chiefs_outsider 1.) They don’t play each other. Same argument could be used for why Eli is better.
2.) If those two games go the other way they both have 5 right now and it’s not even a debate. That’s how insane this is.
I’ve been thinking a lot about this whole @JoshAllenQB debate - and I know winning means something - but so does context!
Here’s a little - I played in 3 SBs - in each of them after the last significant drive we had on offense, I left the field with a lead or tie… I have a SB record of 1-2…
Imagine me not having to throw another pass in any of those games and being undefeated (2-0-1 - obviously would have played overtime & could have been 3-0)… how would my career be viewed differently??? Without doing anything different!
Context matters, although very seldom really considered… but can’t always be just as easy as he wasn’t good enough to win! Josh Allen has been great in playoffs - many times not needing to do anything else to win or tie in those games (and often times it’s been to best QB of the era as well) yet many want to say he hasn’t been good enough… maybe, maybe not, but context matters!
Forcing this into a 23 year career vs 7 year career argument is disingenuous at best. Not surprised that’s the route you wanna take though.
For clarity, it’s obvious who has been better to start their career. Mahomes has the individual and team achievements. But Mahomes is going to have to play for a long time to reach the counting stats Brady put up over 23 seasons.
To show how ridiculous it’s gotten by the refs against Jawaan, one of these two players is supposed to be on the ball and one is suppose to be off. So they’re saying between 87 and 84, whose helmets are even, one is considered on the line like an OL and the other off. Pathetic.