@mfjlewis Thank you most kindly. It speaks very well of you to say so. Indeed it is a very painful situation, that I never asked for.
I, too, owe apologies to you when I presumed bad motives. I'm sorry.
My thanks and gratitude, too, for your understanding.
@mfjlewis While I am genuinely edited and impre witt your sincerity towards hierarchs and chanceries .... my own past personal experience as well as what I've seen done to others ... I doubt they would be at all.
@mfjlewis To this very day, whenever I have so much as requested a meeting of LESS THAN 5 MINS with almost ANY bishop, they not only refuse, but either ignore altogether, or they reply with sparky and personally insulting letters/emails that would shock(except that they no longer do.)
@mfjlewis 2/2 "and I will certainty release you." a week later when I gave six options,he said "Who do you think you are?! I'm NOT releasing you! " When I began to remind him of his instruction only a week previous he smirked, put his hands up and said: "Ah! But I put nothing in writing."
@mfjlewis What is???
1/2again, you are MORE than WELCOME to contact me and I will freely share you any and all canonical documentation as well as letters I have from my former bishop.
He lied to me even. Having specifically himself instructed me to "find a place where you can go and i
@mfjlewis Exactly. I can assure you I committed absolutely NO canonical, nor civil crime of ANY kind. I broke NONE of my priestly promises at all. I broke no laws.
I am happy to share with you any and all canonical documentation I have, should you care to see it.
@mfjlewis Personally, I always thought that Fr. Pagliarani ought to have asked sooner. However, once Fracis took ill, he saw it as improper to rush. Also, there were three bishops and a fourth in Houndor. Once he, Tissier AND Francis all died in one year it seriously moved the necessit
@mfjlewis Perhaps. But, without any meeting to hear anyone's perspective, we won't know.
I DO know that Pope Francis had verbally told Bishop Fellay that he saw no problem with granting Papal Mandate.
@mfjlewis Yes, Pope Francis was quite good to us. Many times he received Bishop Fellay and Fr. Pagliarani. He seemed to appreciate that we actually had practical ministries to the poor etc.
@mfjlewis Oh yes it most certainly was and IS wrong. A bishop has an obligation to his priests, just as priests have obligations to their bishop as coworkers in his ministry.
If I were adjacent to the SSPX back then, wouldn't it have made far more sense to have simply gone to them?
@mfjlewis Basic principles of both canon and moral theology hold that punishments restricts, and penalties are to be interpreted as strictly and narrowly as possible, whereas permissions, insults, and exceptions are applied generously and widely as possible. public excomm must be named
@mfjlewis Canonically, this is not yet as declared. The majority Of Canonically competent clergy who are in no way fans nor supporters of SSPX explain and hold this.
@mfjlewis Why? I can be saved anyway, so....
Plus, again, they do not ACTUALLY want me. That is obvious. You might personally, perhaps, but I assure you NO bishop does.
@mfjlewis And let's be honest, you and I KNOW that they DONT WANT US! You and so many others rejoice in this declared excommunication....then why would you want us back?
@mfjlewis 3 The many canonical recourse appeals etc which I duly submitted through proper canonical representation went unanswered and many not even acknowledged receipt of the requests for aid