They already have haven’t you seen all the terrorist films there’s been plenty of hostages taken that were American based on ideological and religious views the Muslims killed them because they were not Muslim Have you seen the beheadings and it’s not just about whit people it’s about Christians so don’t make it seem that it’s about race when it’s not it’s about Muslims faith believing in a false profit with convoluted views and a distorted idea of what real peace means I suppose, getting rapes stabbing and be headings means a great faith of peace may even try it !
Of course the Muslim men were being killed in their communities, and their women were being gang raped by Christians. You wouldn’t be talking,
No reply ? What are you afraid of ? I’m sure it’s the exposure of the cult of Islam with the false prophet whose religion in bodies, gang rapes of non-is loan women, rapid violence, indoctrination,
The heel is meant for the head of the snake! Wherever Islam goes, it spews out and poisons community suggests their women to violence and abuse, and anybody who doesn’t convert to Islam and kiss the Blackstone is an infidel and needs to die. That’s your religion. There’s no peace in your faith, even amongst yourselves.! I can tell you this none of you are getting any virgins when you die game over you live once and then your judged!
@WHLeavitt Isn’t it funny how all the LGBTQ like to wear a mask all the transgender like to hide behind a mask?
Only darkness conceals itself, but we are in the light and expose the darkness
Peace here is what I’m thinking and thank you for sharing. You know the way you kind of have your head wrapped around your understanding of truth.
Thank you for sharing that. May I ask a sincere question?
If truth is ultimately subjective, then in what sense could something genuinely be called a lie? Doesn’t the concept of a lie assume there is an objective truth from which it departs?
I’m not asking to win a debate—I ask because I believe that if God exists and is the source of truth, then truth itself cannot be merely subjective
Peace /shalom and thank you . for this engagement, appreciate it, whether that matters or not..
So what you’re saying it does make sense, and l appreciate you taking the time to explain your reasoning.
I think we've identified where we differ. You seem to be saying that, when it comes to evaluating claims of divine revelation, we ultimately cannot arrive at an objective standard and are left with subjective judgment.
🎯My question is this: if that is true, then how could God ever expect humanity to distinguish a true prophet from a false one?
If every standard is ultimately subjective, wouldn't God's commands to test prophets become impossible to apply objectively?
Nice question and I appreciate your time
Willing to learn for many Avenue and I respect many people, but a lie I cannot uphold and I do not only hold truth, but I seek it
My objective standard is God’s unchanging character—not chronology. Chronology only establishes which revelation came first. If the same God speaks again, His later revelation should be consistent with His earlier revelation because God does not contradict Himself
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Thank you for the thoughtful response. I think we're actually closer than it may appear.
I'm not asking a Muslim to abandon the Qur'an before the discussion begins. I'm asking a prior question:
If the same God revealed both messages, by what objective principle do we determine whether a later revelation is genuinely from Him .
My principle isn't "ine older book automatically wins." My principle is that God's character is unchanging. If God previously revealed something, a later revelation claiming to come from that same God
should demonstrate continuity rather than contradiction.
That is why I begin with the standard before comparing
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@larain_10@Lumichaoss If they follow Allah, they have to accept the Torah because it says in the Quran that they have to abide by the Torah, but you don’t know that
רוח הרוח איתי, וכך גם רוח החכמה, כך גם הדעת ביראת אלוהים, וכך גם רוח הגבורה. לא רק שאני בא בשלום עם כוח, המסרים שלי כך בוחרים את הרוח שכובלת את הרוח שמסמא אותך, ושתתרסק כעת רוח המוות שבך בשם ישוע המשיח. שלבך יהיה באוזניך, וקשיחות לבך תהיה רחוקה ממך, אמן.
The spirit of the wind is with me, so also the spirit of wisdom, so the knowledge in the fear of God, so also is the spirit of strength. Not only do I come in peace with strength, my messages thus select the spirit that binds the spirit that blinds you, and let the spirit of death in you be shattered now in Yeshua HaMashiach's name. May your heart be in your ears, and the hardness of your heart be far from you, Amen."
“My goal is not to win an argument. My goal is to understand together whether a claim about God is consistent with the revelation God has already given.”
I know the truth but do you really seek it !
Does praying tell us who someone is, or does it tell us what they are doing?⚡️👈🏻👆🏼👆🏼👆🏼
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No it doesn’t your just ignorant of some Christian knowledge
So when the Muslims , hear “Jesus prayed,” they naturally conclude, “Therefore He cannot be God.” Christians begin with a different premise:!!
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Moses prayed. David prayed. The prophets prayed. Prayer tells us someone is relating to God; it doesn’t, by itself, answer every question about their nature or mission.⚡️⚡️⚡️👆🏼
“If the Torah and the Prophets anticipated a Messiah whose role was unique, shouldn’t we examine all of what they say before concluding that one fact—such as Jesus praying—settles the entire question!!