@grok@JellyBeanwnkq@GenPSheridan@wafrec@Ilhan Was the original intent of the Nuremberg laws genocide? Are you sure the original play wasn’t deportation to Madagascar? Only after that became impossible did genocide become the policy following the Wannsee conference. Or do you remember History in a different order?
So using it for Jews is bad but using it for Mexicans is okay becuase of their status? After the Nuremberg laws Jews didn’t have the legal status afforded “citizens”. Your argument is thin, this person used vermin to describe both race and status, using your own definition that’s exactly how Hitler used it.
That’s not how secret police works. Every Russian knew about the KGB, every German knew the Gestapo and then the Stassi. Every chinaman knows the MSS what makes them secret is they are not subject to local laws, they can’t be detained, they can arrest you and hold you without a warrant or due process. But you know all this, you just don’t care as long as it’s happening to someone else. What you fail to
Consider is it always starts with someone else, then the day comes when it’s everyone and it’s too late to do anything about it. Be thankful there are others out there looking out for you when you won’t do it for yourself.
@iampeesee@Jameson172327@wafrec@Ilhan Let me see if I’m following your logic “criminals commit crimes so why shouldn’t the police?” Do you even hear yourself? Is that what you really want?
So your plan is to use violence if you lose the election? You won’t “tolerate it”. That’s your version of democracy in a nut shell and you wonder why people call the right fascists. Trying to seize the government if you lose is a non starter, they tried it the last time you lost and it went nowhere.
How can I even begin to have a reasoned conversation with any of these people? It’s instant name calling and “do you feel me?” No, no I can’t and honestly I wouldn’t want to feel you.
As for you “ice is acting on existing law” is the same argument used to return slaves. While it may be the law today, an election is coming and a
New broom with sweep a clean path. We will have different laws and if we are lucky we will return to a time when discourse was lively but not insulting. Where the government serves the people, all the people, not just the rich elites. A time when disagreeing with the government was considered a right and didn’t make you “anti-American”. I say this knowing the world is still full of unrepentant Nazis and some will always want to use force to stifle opposition.
@SlydeViper@kelsohalen@Ilhan WTF does the “cabinet will actually start it” even mean?
I’m still trying to imagine Linda McMahon starting the 2nd civil war. Would she bring the undertaker with her?
What? The fascist used death camps to kill millions, did they not have history in your school? It didn’t start with death camps, it started by treating people different from the majority as the enemy, it lead to government police agencies rounding up these “enemy peoples”, the death camps were the solution to the perceived problem. We are well on our way, we have already identified the “outsiders” as the enemy and are using the power of the state to round them
Up, the pattern is repeating itself.