@Andreas_1692 I know but what am saying is, unless the margin between the comparison is big objectively I. E ลaka vs Messi shit, most of the time people pick either Cr7 or Messi from a place of bias and prespective difference most of the time. Not from a ball knowledge standpoint.
What annoys me with narratives and punditry when it comes the Goat debate Is saying Cristiano is the Goat dosent mean u don't have ball knowledge and vise versa. It's just stupid bad faith argumentation.
@Andreas_1692 Exactly, the same goes for players u watch and objectivity in football is rare. We try to minimise our biases and stuff as much as possible to have a good faith argument. But that's tough. So that's why I don't ask ppl whose the Goat. I'd rather ask their favourite footballers.
@Andreas_1692 Cuz if I show speed from the beginning said Messi is the Goat do you think he has any lick of ball knowledge. Ive seen people watch the same game and end up in different conclusions of how it went. Most of the debate is affected by i perspectives, bias and preference bro.
@Andreas_1692 Bro I am not talking abt debating or I do understand some Ronaldo fans being bad faith and stuff. I'm not talking about those. I'm just saying the media and some narrative around associating ball knowledge with just because some one said Messi is the Goat is dumb.
@Andreas_1692 Messi Doesn't make him the Goat no matter what u say to a person who thinks Ronaldo is better. You may think he's dumb he can bring valid reasons why he he thinks that. That's why I think the Goat debate Is useless because most of the time is gets diluted by preference
@Andreas_1692 I disagree bro but let me hear ur reasons why you think people saying Cristiano is the Goat have 0 ball knowledge or Vise versa. Ball knowledge has nothing to do with your preferences bro
Ronaldo & Messi are 40 years old still going machine for machine at the elite level but instead of appreciating both, cultists have ruined what weโve actually been witnessing for two decades
@EKG_T9 If your talking abt Messi as a footballer he's Messi there's nothing to say. But form and performance over all throughout the season, haaland, dembele, kvara have better numbers and on better form playing in tougher competitions than Messi.