I hear you. Murdering the unborn is a tricky business. You've got to go through all the effort of packaging it as a compassionate womens rights issue, and even then, you'll have these *scoff* icky religious people reminding you that murder is still wrong and shouldn't be permitted.
The horror.
@johnrackham82@GavinNewsom@realDonaldTrump It's almost like he has no clue what the military does/ is expected to do. Funny. Not "ha ha" kind of funny, but "what a fucking idiot," funny.
News flash: you're expected to be uncomfortable in the military. Our troops are built and trained to live in circumstances like this; in fact, this is downright cushy, compared to what anyone expects while enlisting. Looks like they've got a roof and AC, to me.
Get off your high horse, you sheltered dweeb. You don't know jack about the armed services.
@ABenjaminWolfe@ItIsHoeMath If you knew his content, instead of casting accusatory remarks in the form of a question, you'd know he speaks plenty on how boys and men need to grow the hell up, and be better people. π€·π»ββοΈ
Correct. We are broadly applying an otherwise entirely suitable and accurate term "woke," and in doing so, adding ambiguity, and undermining our ability to parse and combat differing ideas that can be simultaneously harmful.
We don't need to reinvent the wheels. We don't need to apply the term "woke,' to right wingers who have a fundamentally irreconcilable ideology from the "Woke." To HM's point, it's weird that someone as ostensibly keen as James is so fixated on commandeering a term in such for such a confounding purpose. Makes you wonder about motive.
Also to your point on "social justice," we all know what that term means also, and it ISN'T about justice. Likewise, someone not being "pro-social justice," is not "anti-justice." It means you aren't pro leftist identity politics B.S.
@DocsFCompanion@ItIsHoeMath@JulieABehling I can see I made you upset. In the event you need help removing that wedgy from your colon, go ask for help from someone who cares, if you've got any.
@DocsFCompanion@ItIsHoeMath@JulieABehling No, not really, but serve as an excellent case and point of exactly the kind of people who just like to argue are impossible to reason with.
Thanks for nothing, twit.
Ah yes, the master of the strawman at it again. This is exactly the problem we're discussing.
You aren't actually addressing what I'm saying. You're not capable of it, so you impose a flawed perception of my view into terms you understand.
Simply put, you're dumb and annoying. Shut the fuck up.
One of them is a child with a demonstrable lack of knowledge about the world, one of them is a grown adult with demonstrable knowledge about the world.
A child telling an adult to shut up is the same as a moron telling a wise person to shut up. The adult goes, "hm, that's cute; now here is your reality check."
You're starting to seem like one of those morons we've been talking about.
@DocsFCompanion@ItIsHoeMath@JulieABehling Telling someone to shut up isn't a command and it isn't imposing force, nor censorship. Where youre getting this idea is baffling. It's simply the act of telling a person incapable of listening or having a conversation to stop engaging with you.
You're really good and category errors.
It's not "rival ideas," it's "dangerous ideas;" time-tested ideas. Not only that, but ideas that HAVE been tested numerous times throughout history, and as I said, we've seen the results.
You can only explain a bad idea to a moron so many times. You can only convince so many people. You can't expect everyone to be capable of changing their minds (another news flash, many many people can't actually think, which puts a damper on your whole "hold hands and sing kumbaya," theory).
When you are confront by a zealot or a moron who literally cannot see reason, no matter what you do, no matter how many times we've witnessed the results, what do you tell them?
What do you tell a legit racist white guy? Shut the fuck up.
What do you tell a communist dweeb? Shut the fuck up.
Your last two sentences are also a weak attempt to straw-man me (another thing your apparently well-versed in). It's not about being a parent, nor some grand philosopher. Philosopher king? Parent? You really do need to shut up; those are your ideas, not yours, so stop trying to put them in my mouth.
Acknowledging you might be wrong is a great suggestion. Its usually performed by people who spend less time running their mouths, and more time thinking.
Nice bait-and-switch with Aristotle. I'm not going to dignify that one with a response.
But who is wise, anyway? Is it the blagarts who love the sound of their own voices, or the people who prefer to listen to what others say, before spouting off?
You pretend that telling people to be quiet is some great sin, when it's a necessary step on the road to personal growth. You're ass fuckin' backwards.
@AllisionBurner@ItIsHoeMath@grok Seems like a really good thing for you to think about while you study history. You're not going to be satisfied hearing it from me, or some AI chat bot, if you're actual curious, that is.
Tip: you'll find evidence of this literally everywhere you look.
A bratty, spoiled, ignorant child screaming in the store? What would be best? For them to shut their mouths.
An entitled, lazy, willfully ignorant adult who can't parse a coherent string of thoughts together to save their lives? Uh, yeah. It'd probably be best for them to stop voting, stop telling people how to live, and think about their own misery, before they start changing the world.
Your claim that telling someone to shut up is never right is patently absurd. How about prove your claim, then?
The arguments you give of people telling others to shut up, were the authorized narratives that were an affront to conservative-minded people? What, are you pointing out some alleged hypocracy?
News flash: there is no hypocracy that you've highlighted. Different ideas are different. Some are bad. If someone is incapable of seeing the results of their shit ideas, and refuses to correct course, they have earned NOTHING BUT a good "shut your fucking mouth."
@NotRiteQuite@ItIsHoeMath@grok Oh, of course. Grok can't admit that racism is a thing that impacts real life. It's ALWAYS socioeconomic, to our glorious little brain-washing tool.
Well, except for when white people gain the forbidden knowledge that different races exist. Boy, does it notice it then.
@ItIsHoeMath I wonder if she recognizes how feckless and revolting she is. There's probably an incling of realization, but not enough for me to be less enraged by her hatred.