@blind_via Any more details? You have to be doing something both bespoke and high scale to justify not using any of the 30 million existing options on Mouser
@istvan_csanady Not quite what you asked for, but I've had some success with using an LLM to generate path planning -> gcode. Left is a more interesting sim result, right is a demo cut. Works well for creative / algorithmic work, not really extensible to typical CAD work.
@QiaochuYuan I think if you take that core difference in mind and just sit on the thought of metabolism for awhile it may make more sense. Hans Jonas' "The Phenomenon of Life" is good on this if you want a text.
@QiaochuYuan The key difference in my mind is metabolism. An organism first needs to persist in time through exchange of material w/ the environment. There is no such thing as organism w/o metabolism
The formal definition of the computer makes no reference to this, it is operations on symbols
@lumpenspace Turing completeness says something about the dynamics of an alphabetized space. An organism must exist in time as a metabolic part of a thermodynamic whole -- this is prior to the process of alphabetizing.
@lumpenspace If you scramble the weights of an LLM, does the GPU persist? If you scramble the DNA of a cell, does the cell persist?
Enaction is a stronger constraint than Turing completeness.
@quetzal_rainbow@AlexLerchner That we as actors discretize, alphabetize is true. Our descriptions of systems are a product of this process. This does not deny that nature discretizes nor that nature can be modelled, it highlights the human subject as an active participant in verbalizing a description.
@quetzal_rainbow@AlexLerchner The insight of 2nd order cybernetics was that the observer-actor should be included in descriptions of systems. "Everything that is said is said by an observer to another observer who may be himself."
That we are having a conversation means there are at least two map-makers!
@quetzal_rainbow@AlexLerchner Restated in terms of the paper: physical dynamics can be described by a map-maker as computation and computation is abstract enough to describe any alphabetized dynamic.
I find including the role of the map-maker to be greatly clarifying here.
@wolftivy You may like A Natural Theology for Our Time by Charles Hartshorne who argues for a God capable of change, "The being who is surpassable by no one else, but is surpassable by Himself."
@StephenPiment@jeremykauffman The extractive logic of the parasite is very similar to the extractive logic of the extractive logic of coal/oil capitalism. The immune system has to yoke them both.