Pharies

Cybersecurity | Founder & Engineer @stage_by_jaimo #GovTech 🇩🇪

[Pharies @cpries94]

"A time is coming when men will go mad, and when they see someone who is not mad, they will attack him saying, 'You are mad, you are not like us.'" - Antony the Great, Christian monk from Egypt

[Pharies @cpries94]

@FSD_Europilot @oskargroth People that use MacOS generally know how to operate software a lot better than your average iPhone user. This is not the same. And this choice was obviously forced by vague legal language. The DMA and DSA were mad exactly for this purpose.

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@FSD_Europilot @oskargroth Yet another n reality they are removing my ability to accept apples terms. They are excluding 450 billion devices from a giant major software improvement. Now instead of a private company „dictating“, it’s the EU telling me I can’t use apples AI.

[Pharies @cpries94]

The EU is so worried about forcing foreign companies to allow its own models that it forgot to actually build EU models that CAN compete.

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@youpmelone @oskargroth I do not have that experience and so far moving everything to apple was really good and improved my work and life, the EU is preventing me with this overreach from adopting new technologies I am already using in other areas.

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@youpmelone @oskargroth then why would you buy an iphone? Android is open source...

[Pharies @cpries94]

Yes, here I agree. Because the value apple would unlock with these features outweights the innovative issues the EU claims we are loosing. Apple is risking an entire continent in marketshare to showcase this. Insane gamble. If the EU didnt make technical innovation so complex this would be perfect for competitors to swoop in, but there are no serious competitors because tech regulation made any tech innovations basically impossible to scale.

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@ReliableBrain @oskargroth this is just not a realistic product plan. 99.99% of user do not care and want shit to just work. The freedom you think provides value in this specific case mainly causes one thing: an insane amout of risk and voulnerability to abuse. on a global scale.

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this is now how the AI integration works. You cannot run local models efficiently yet so you would always have to off-load the actual inference outside of the phone. This means data goes in and out of the phone and this means there is a connection that contains litterally everything. this is not the same as needing an account to run an app vs. pwa.

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@youpmelone @oskargroth Ok, well, they are complying with the law right now by not release these features and we are getting robbed of our ability to make a souverän consumer choice regarding our personal data. Is this good for Europe?

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@pobeirocomB @tsunghan_yu @oskargroth Here: https://t.co/Houxx5sRgz

[Pharies @cpries94]

@tts_ff2 @oskargroth In theory it makes sense in practice this will make it easier for anyone to get access to to „everything“ on your phone, even end to end encrypted chats, passwords, clipboard, payment data etc

[Pharies @cpries94]

While it makes sense in theory, this is not a good idea on an international scale. That is why I agree with Apple. They already tried to allow third party providers but the EU blocked all suggestions for how this could safely be done on scale. We are talking about billions of devices. Assume only 0.01 of users are getting tricked into giving a malicious third party phone access, that is insane consumer damage on a global scale.

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@youpmelone @oskargroth Dictatorships usually have political origin. This is a company. You don’t need to use Apple, there are no laws forcing you too.

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@ReliableBrain @oskargroth So we should rely on a legal loophole? Great idea for businesses :/

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@tsunghan_yu @oskargroth That is what they offered. The EU didn’t like Apple controlling this Auth flow. You are literally saying „Apple can create..“ and that’s the problem they don’t want to have. This is how I understand this.

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@tts_ff2 @oskargroth Apple set up an entire system where you could do exactly that you just need to have some verification so it’s not just „any“ random provider. The EU did not want this.

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@youpmelone @oskargroth And then the EU will sue Apple in two years because some random AI-Scammer took over your Moms phone? No thank you.

[Pharies @cpries94]

@tts_ff2 @oskargroth Weird comment, don’t know what your take is.

[Pharies @cpries94]

@SPYGO19726 @oskargroth Compared to what? The type of technical infrastructure the EU political system produced so far?

[Pharies @cpries94]

No they should not. Not without some type of control. You want your grandma to download an App and suddenly have an unknown company have access to litteraly everything? Apple wants some control on what can access the phone and the EU says Apple should keep it open. In theory this makes sense but in reality this is a huge risk.