Yes we can brother. Abjad writing system. You can find the mathematics in many traditions/ belief
The chinese even worked with these advanced mathematics as well when we look into the Magic Squares
It is very common for Mystics of all religions to study letters and numbers- it is root of religion itself
This why the Quran shocked many - the supreme mathematics in it
Thiswat i found for you
**It was the first five verses of Surah Al-ʿAlaq (96:1–5), not Al-Falaq.** Al-Falaq is a later short surah (113) seeking refuge; the first revelation is universally identified in the main hadith sources as Al-ʿAlaq 1–5.<grok:render card_id=“461550” card_type=“citation_card” type=“render_inline_citation”><argument name="citation_id">0</argument></grok:render>
The verses are:
> Read in the name of your Lord who created—
> created man from a clinging substance.
> Read! And your Lord is the Most Generous—
> Who taught by the pen—
> taught man that which he knew not. (Quran 96:1–5)<grok:render card_id=“fe566d” card_type=“citation_card” type=“render_inline_citation”><argument name="citation_id">16</argument></grok:render>
### What actually convinced Khadijah and Waraqah
According to the well-known account in Sahih al-Bukhari (and parallel reports), it was **not primarily a unique doctrinal claim inside those five verses** that led them to declare him a prophet. It was the overall experience plus recognition of the mode of revelation.<grok:render card_id=“f8c616” card_type=“citation_card” type=“render_inline_citation”><argument name="citation_id">8</argument></grok:render>
- Muhammad returned from the Cave of Hira shaken and frightened after the angel (later identified as Jibril/Gabriel) repeatedly commanded him to “Read,” pressed him tightly three times, and then recited those verses. He asked Khadijah to cover him and said he feared for himself.
- **Khadijah** reassured him on the basis of his known character: he maintained kinship ties, helped the poor and destitute, honored guests, and supported people in difficulty. She told him Allah would not disgrace someone of that character. She is traditionally counted as the first believer.<grok:render card_id=“9ca963” card_type=“citation_card” type=“render_inline_citation”><argument name="citation_id">0</argument></grok:render>
- She then took him to her cousin **Waraqah ibn Nawfal**, an elderly blind man who had become a Christian, knew the earlier scriptures, and used to write from the Gospel (in Hebrew/Arabic). After Muhammad described the encounter, Waraqah said essentially: “This is the Namus [the angelic bearer of secrets/revelation] whom Allah sent to Moses. I wish I were young… Your people will drive you out.” He added that no one had brought the like of what Muhammad brought without being opposed, and that he would support him strongly if he lived long enough.<grok:render card_id=“c9f97c” card_type=“citation_card” type=“render_inline_citation”><argument name="citation_id">1</argument></grok:render>
Waraqah’s recognition rested on the description of the angelic visitation matching the pattern of earlier prophetic revelation (especially to Moses), not on an exegetical analysis of “created man from ʿalaq” or “taught by the pen” as standalone proof. Some reports include him explicitly affirming that Muhammad was the prophet of his people.
### On the content of the verses themselves
The verses emphasize creation, divine generosity, teaching through writing/knowledge, and that humans are taught what they did not know. Later Muslim scholars often highlight their depth and the fact that they came to a man described as unlettered in a largely oral society. That has been treated as part of the broader argument for the miraculous nature of the Quran. But the earliest detailed accounts of Khadijah’s and Waraqah’s immediate reactions focus on the character testimony and the recognition of the revelatory encounter as continuous with prior prophets
In short: the verses mark the start of the claimed revelation, the experience of receiving them (angelic command and pressure) was what was described to Waraqah, and his and Khadijah’s affirmations rested primarily on that description matching earlier prophetic patterns plus Muhammad’s established character
@sheng_hua22819@Elden_to Newton didnt invent it - we know it to be named after him though
But he who controls the pen controls the past present and future
Hindi are known to have discovered most of everything we know today
Arabs innovated a lot of it
@smartdebiz2@_Ochiedike But i mean - books were sent to restore laws / come with new laws. So it is a reason we have two different things we are looking at
I believed it before hearing of it in Islam / religion because the Lsd told me stay away from pig lol
This is New Testament - different than Deut But yeah nothing is unclean in itself - purity and impurity are illusions of the mind as an Aghori mystic would say - ( left hand ) Tantric yoga ascetics who consume human flesh to recycle energy, pray ontop of dead bodies. Etc
Makes sense why Romans Said “ nothing is unclean in itself “ - they are very similar to Aghori Shaivites !
Dumbass Japanese didn't know that it was Arab Muslims under the Umayyad empire who popularized the planting of rice paddies in Spain so much that modern English word "rice" was a loanword from the Spanish Arroz, which in turn was loanword from the Arabic الرز (Ar-Roz).
@belle_liuu A samaritan during the time of moses but didnt exist a hundred years later or a Samiri ?
Either way - if it is Samaritan , thats pretty interesting to call them that if they didn’t exist til later
Its not that its “ not true “ .. its that it gotten lost in translation overtime - book was manipulated by same people who claim hes a false prophet.
I found Islam because of Christ and his message
Dive into #sufism - the Sufi Mystic in Islam there are many different sufi - christian sufi, hindu sufi , etc
Sufi use chant , music and dance to unite with God
Sufi is a muslim to a muslim, Christian to a Christian, hindu to a hindu etc
Christ was a mystic
#gnosticism is another Mystic dive you can explore as a christian. It was my introduction into Sufism