@gOdLeSs246@vetroid9s@defnotowen@Splorpss@Gidonicus as i already said under another post, i do think he has this "opinions" because he heard of them from others and didn't really think it thru, for now at least i don't think he's using any tactics other than being not aware of the fact that the counter-arguments to his are better
@dino_sooop@gOdLeSs246@defnotowen@Splorpss@Gidonicus yes you can charged with murder if you go in the hospital and randomly unplug people on life support. but remember whenever you talk about all the exeptions you want, 96% of the abortions are for elective reasons not for medical/rape/incest, so even if we granted all your 1/2
@defnotowen@Kklerloyo@Splorpss@Gidonicus@gOdLeSs246 btw you don't want to base your "morals" on current law only, because if you do that, then you would be one of the ones that think having slaves was normal and perfectly moral because the law said so
@defnotowen@Kklerloyo@Splorpss@Gidonicus@gOdLeSs246 see that you are asking me the question without aknowloging when life starts? when do you think life starts? and on what you base that idea on, let's follow the logic
@Blackho53919457@defnotowen@Splorpss@Gidonicus@gOdLeSs246 to be fair to him, i think he has an opinion based on what others told him to believe, not something that he truly arrived after some logical thoughts on it, i really hope he sees the hypocrisy and the truth about "abortion/rights"
@defnotowen@Kklerloyo@Splorpss@Gidonicus@gOdLeSs246 you can't kill somebody because that would infrange on their right to live, so your "right" ends when his "right" starts, what you cited about cells are all your "own", sperm is still yours until conception, it has your SAME dna, same as your blood, BUT after conception the 2/3
@defnotowen@Splorpss@Gidonicus@gOdLeSs246 so if the people around the vegetatiove state decide to harvest the organs of the human, that's fine and perfectly moral no? it has no brain and no sentience, can't feel pain and isn't aware of their own existence.
@defnotowen@Splorpss@Gidonicus@gOdLeSs246 if brain activity is what we consider "human" then we should kill immediatly all the people that are "braindead", or in a vegetive state, you have to be consistent if you follow that logic
@Splorpss@Gidonicus@gOdLeSs246 can you give me the scientifically accepted terms of when life begins? i will be waiting, you can't because you can't come to terms with the fact that we are right, you just like the "choice" of killing a baby because it benefits your lifestyle
@Pain_Fe01@MedicCasts@pepehogan i have to be logical consistent so i have to say that if the embryo is alive then it's a life, and if it's discarded for not medical reasons than it's the same as killing it. just because we can't see a baby's face most people dehumanize it, 1/2