@garcon_com70968 Are you genuinely schizophrenic
All i said was I'm not against punishing racist hate speech, it's not my fault that somehow translates to i hate whites to you? You're genuinely fucking mentally unwell
@garcon_com70968 But i haven't, no one asked me to condemn anti white racism at alm in this thread, please provide a username and paste the exact sentence, secondly paste any example where I've mentioned I'm fighting for racism against one side specifically? Thirdly lose some fucking weight fatty
@SaltierSauceAL No you're racist against blacks, how do I know (I don't but I guess if you can randomly accuse me of being ok with racism against whites then i can do the same to you for blacks) wow let's try harder to make an interesting point next time
@memeticsisyphus No because i won't be the sole enforcer on whats restricted that's up to the people we VOTE to be in charge, England and Germany already do this and nobody calls them totalitarian
@CaraAl26949 I can use your same point to say, we should allow people to hit others for no reason whenever they want since doing so restricts how they use their own bodies and thats a slippery slope because it's too dangerous to tell people how to use their bodies
@CaraAl26949 That's argument is a slippery slope in of itself Every law can be abused that's why we have constitutions, courts and judicial review. The possibility of abuse isn't, by itself, an argument against having any legal limits at all
@memeticsisyphus Also your main point, -> it's against freedom of expression even if people choose to express themselves as a dick, but the only people being hurt by the restricted freedom of expression are the people who are dicks, its why I can't agree with your reasoning
@memeticsisyphus Racism isn't the only thing making it harmful, but it can make it more harmful and I said strawman because you proposed that I'm saying it's ok to mock the child when no colour is involved which is a strawman of my argument.
@memeticsisyphus And no the offence is not blocking access to jobs or houses because you're not physically doing it, you're just saying racist shit to deter them, it's an implication of possible harms that allowing this so loosely causes, 2nd point is another strawman
@memeticsisyphus@L1s0wsk4@cragroc That's a dangerous strawman.
This isn’t about “not respecting differing opinions.” It’s about distinguishing between opinions and actions that cause harm. If “different opinion” alone were enough, then nothing could ever be restricted not even assault
@rheinsteinrex@L1s0wsk4@memeticsisyphus@cragroc This isn't even an attack on your country, it on your worldviews. You wanna defend the racist and claim that punishing them makes the racist the worse victim then be my guest. There's no way to convince someone like you so indoctrinated in hate.
@rheinsteinrex@L1s0wsk4@memeticsisyphus@cragroc never put any numbers to that, it you look closely it was a response to HOW it can cause harm, racism can hurt someones feelings nobody has statistical analysis on the number of people whose feelings it hurts but that doesn't reduce its authenticity. Allowing this opens the door
@MyMoonlightLily Like genuinely think about this deeply and compare it to your censorship opinion, should hitting people for no reason be allowed since not allowing that is violating your bodies autonomy, a "censorship" on what you're allowed to do with your body if you will.Why is that different
@MyMoonlightLily Not all speech restrictions are inherently immoral “censorship.” Societies already draw limits based on broadly shared judgments about harm the debate is about where those limits should be, not whether any can exist at all.