this shows the heart of conspiratorial thinking, I believe. the human mind can't comprehend the scale of tragedy, and for some its easier to dismiss the possibility than to try to wrap your mind around it
@PitmanSabaya@backup_syndi the original video is one one guy saying "the Marxist position is x" and another explaining why it's not 🤷♂️.
My primary principle is the abolition of class
@PitmanSabaya@backup_syndi Im open to correcting marx on the facts, but if the goals are fundamentally different then we are not discussing the same ideology. No matter how effectively we might create them, strong national economies are not a goal of marxism
@PitmanSabaya@backup_syndi if you want to try and form a national socialism, that's one thing, but don't go on tiktok and call it "the Marxist position"
@PitmanSabaya@backup_syndi Marx explicitly states that capital has irreverisbly become international. You cannot "cut off" offshoring without entirely overthrowing international capital, at which point the issue is moot. And you cannot achieve this without an international (not "local") workers movement
@PitmanSabaya@backup_syndi opposition to immigration rests on the assumption that cutting off immigration cuts off cheap labor, as if capitalism isn't always generating cheap labor globally. It misses the wider structural critique. Idk about word salad, I'm being as plain as I can be within char limit.
@PitmanSabaya@backup_syndi Opposing immigration/upholding the line that immigration is a primary cause of underpayment takes rhetorical/practical focus away from the ruling class and towards a segment of workers, thats what I mean by blame. And ofc im not against unions, but marxists arent trade unionists
@PitmanSabaya@backup_syndi I would be curious to hear the first guys argument in full, but I fail to see any way that blaming a segment of the working class for labor exploitation would increase class solidarity