@AbsoluteZero981@eetukotala@adripo_95@gromprider@G2esports which of course makes absolutely no sense, just because i prioritize the child, doesnt make the elderly somehow inhuman. its just prioritization. And just because i prioritize a 5 year old over 5 embryos, doesnt make them any less valuable.
@AbsoluteZero981@eetukotala@adripo_95@gromprider@G2esports you're saying " i made that choice" but i didnt, you vastly inflated the number to make a point i didnt agree to. using the logic of the ACTUAL situation you gave me, if i choose to save 1 child from a burning building instead of 5 old people, the pensioners arent human beings.
@AbsoluteZero981@eetukotala@adripo_95@gromprider@G2esports I'd save the 5 year old because it knows pain, and sadness, and suffering, and to do anything else would be cruel. That doesnt make the unborn child any less worthy of life. There is no "trolley problem" when it comes to abortion, there isnt death on the other end for most.
@emerrin_lol my personal morals are a bit weird/nuanced though. Im generally accepting if uncomfortable with pre 8 week pill abortions. Anything beyond that is straight up disgusting to me. Thats not just a clump of cells anymore, its a baby and you're killing it.
@emerrin_lol assuming its consensual with no medical complications, YOU and the man chose to have sex, YOU chose to take the risk, you cant then get to make that decision to kill your unborn child because you regret it. We talk about choice, but the unborn child never chose to be aborted.
@AbsoluteZero981@eetukotala@adripo_95@gromprider@G2esports what on earth do technicalities have to do with the death of an unborn child?
I dont need to know the precise order of operations to have an opinion on the death of a child.
What a stupid argument.
@KrillNat As for the "murder" label, my take has always been that its just the closest label we have. Knowingly and willingly taking a human life is murder, doesnt mean that woman needs to arrested for it. Another example is assisted dying, technically murder but shouldnt be criminalized
@KrillNat my personal limits are, if you were assualted, would face complications, or before its 8 weeks, im uneasy but fulling accepting of it. If you're an idiot who uses it as a form of birth control, or brag about it online, then i detest it.
@HowlettNew22045@jd_alofa@G2esports says the person who misquoted me because they cant even read. and my SOURCES are the CDC abortion surveillance 2021, as i previously stated. I know you struggle to read though, so i dont blame you.
@HowlettNew22045@jd_alofa@G2esports No, because the Parents of GenZ, like myself, grew up in the 70's after the sexual revolution happened. We're not talking about 100 years ago here, we're talking about recent history.
@HowlettNew22045@jd_alofa@G2esports i said that over 50% of abortions occur AFTER 8 weeks, if you'd care to read. This by the CDC's own data. Which means that over 50% of abortions occur when it is NOT just a clump of cells.
@HowlettNew22045@jd_alofa@G2esports i have literally known both men and women who did not give a single fuck about protection. My subjective experience might not apply to everybody, but when 1/3rd of the entirety of GenZ has been aborted, im inclined to think it might.
@HowlettNew22045@jd_alofa@G2esports wow, an AI overview that you definitely didnt prompt to give you the answer you wanted. Look i can do the same thing
@HowlettNew22045@jd_alofa@G2esports and it IS morally wrong to force a woman to have that baby, if having the baby would cause life threatening complications, or the child was conceived by force etc. Unfortunately most of the time its people being irresponsible and careless which causes conception.
@HowlettNew22045@jd_alofa@G2esports "A clump of cells" is only the case for the first week or two, by the time half of abortions occur (around 8 weeks per the CDC's abortion surveilance) there's already a very clearly identifiable baby present.
@AbsoluteZero981@eetukotala@adripo_95@gromprider@G2esports the closest thing to describe it that we have is murder. What else would you call knowingly and willingly causing the death of an innocent life? Until we invent a new term for it, murder is all we have.